Fleabag Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Can a closed license holder shoot on land that is not passed for him, but was passed for me when I was closed, I;E if I invite someone to help me with vermin control on my permissions does the other person have to give his Fao permission letters. and if its a different constabulary what then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Can a closed license holder shoot on land that is not passed for him, but was passed for me yes. as long as he has permission. and the caliber is no bigger. does the other person have to give his Fao permission letters no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plinker Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 i asked d&c firearms the same question 2 months ago over the phone they told me a guest shooter that held a closed fac would need to send in a permission letter from the landowner to shoot vermin. if i were you i would phone them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 there is no legal requirement to have permission in writing. read the guidance. chapter 13, section cant remember. also he is going as a guest of the permission holder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 If the land was cleared for an equal or larger calibre than your guest will be using then it's fine. That is assuming the landowners permission extends to your guest as well as yourself and his licence conditions cover the quarry you'll be shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 http://police.homeoffice.gov.uk/news-and-p...pdf?view=Binary taken from that A person wishing to shoot over land should nominate in their application a specific area of land over which they intend to or have permission to shoot (this does not restrict their ability to shoot elsewhere where permission is also given), and provide written authority, where possible, from the person entitled to grant the shooting rights It should not be difficult for the certificate holder whose certificate is to be conditioned to allow shooting only on land approved by the chief officer of police, and with whom the responsibility lies, to establish whether an area of land has been approved for their type and calibre of firearm without consulting the local police.In most cases it is likely that the landowner, tenant or agent will be able to provide confirmation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Is that the bit you mean Mark?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 30, 2007 Report Share Posted December 30, 2007 Is that the bit you mean Mark?? yes Paul , its mentioned another couple of times in there , but that bit covers it. good man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 hang on one second, has your friend got a fully closed licence or a semi open one the more common one these days, does it name his land and only there or say Land deemed suitable by the chief of police? If it is the latter then he is fine if not then he will need to get it added to his ticket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosa Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 I have the same problem. Everywhere i seem to go has not been surveyed for my .22 & .17hmr so i have to go through the 6-8 week survey process (Northumbria). If it states " land that is deemed suitable by the chief of police" or words to that affect it mean s if it has already been checked for your calibre of rifle you are ok to shoot there as long as the land owner has given you permission. I dont think it has to be written although that will help, but dont get caught on there if he doesnt know your there or it will get difficult. All i can say is roll on the open licence!!!!!!!!! ps land isnt closed to certain people. once it has been surveyed once then that is it. It gets recorded and then anyone in the future can go on as long as it is the stated calibre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 Can a closed license holder shoot on land that is not passed for him, but was passed for me when I was closed, I;E if I invite someone to help me with vermin control on my permissions does the other person have to give his Fao permission letters. and if its a different constabulary what then I had one of the early forms of license where the land was actually stated but where staffs is concerned that is a thing of the past now and the words deemed suitable by the Chief of Police are written only .I think it's the same for other authorities now . If my land is passed for .223 and I invite my buddy on to use his .17 hmr so long as it's OK with the person who has the rights to grant shooting permission then it's OK . If your friend is questioned by the Police whilst out on the land they do insist on permission being in writing ........That's what my FLO (Staffordshire)say's.Don't shoot the messenger . Hope this helps .Other than that you can't beat getting the required info from the horse's mouth has I'm quoting Staffs guidelines and your in Cornwall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete evans Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 when i got my .243 granted the flo came and looked at one farm i have permission on. he seemed happy enough with it he didnt want to see another farm and took my word for it being similar topography. i had no permission letters and he specifically said he didnt want me to contact the dept if i was going to shoot on other land that had been passed for same calliber or above. pretty sensible guy who seemed to be a help in getting sorted rather than an obstacle like other flos ive had to deal with. pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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