Gully Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 When your van's sorted..... Wetroads Turn it over by hand untl you're sure there's no water in the cylinders. hydraulic lock will kill your engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wy111 Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 By the sounds of it, you may have just got water into the bores via the air filter. Another important thing, check that no water has got into oil, may need oil change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted January 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 i will know more tomorrow let you guys know what the out come is ? thanks for all the advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted January 15, 2008 Report Share Posted January 15, 2008 i deffinatly was,nt going fast the wife calls me the slug at driveing .the r.a.c man took off air pipe put it in 5 gear and we pushed backwards and i could hear plenty of water as the pushing backwards got easier was he right to do this ? Yes he was correct to do this, by turning the engine backwards the pistons will push excessive amounts of water out of the exhaust ports, check no more water is present in the intake ducting / filter, if the aa man has already cranked the engine no more water should be present in the cylinders BUT as already mentioned crank over by hand using a socket on the bottom pulley, or try pushing forwards in 4th or 5th, if the engine turns OK more than 2 complete revolutions it should be fine to start. If not push backwards again and retry OR remove glow plugs / injectors. If the water level was higher than the tank cap / breather you may have issues there too, if not just check the fuel drain valve ( bottom of fuel filter ) regularly, large quantities would indicate a problem, which would need a tank drain. How is the oil level?? has it increased at all?? If it has drain and refill, if not run for a few moments to see if it turns milky, give it an oil change soon which ever way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted January 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 (edited) well not sure yet drive vauxhall of aldershot are picking it up tomorrow for a check up fingers crossed.ahhhhhhhhhhhhh i checked oil the level is the same as before no sign of water Edited January 16, 2008 by bignoel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 bet that will cost you.i all ways go slow threw water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBLATCH Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 loosen off the exaust manifold, remove glow plugs as to stop engine starting when turned over. turn engine to see if water is dispersed via them, if so leave for around a week or so then change all filters ,oil etc put back together and hopefully problem solved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted January 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 i was going slow the water came from the embankment and washed me across the road and settled at around 2.1/2 feet ? bobbing about like a duck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBLATCH Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 i was going slow the water came from the embankment and washed me across the road and settled at around 2.1/2 feet ?bobbing about like a duck try what i said ' because when the engine stalls all four cylinders on return draw back the vacum as the lack of power fails to push them to the outlet position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 i was going slow the water came from the embankment and washed me across the road and settled at around 2.1/2 feet ?bobbing about like a duck try what i said ' because when the engine stalls all four cylinders on return draw back the vacum as the lack of power fails to push them to the outlet position. odds are it won't make any difference water doesn't compress so when the pistons tried to compress it usually you get bent rods. Of course try turning it over by hand with glow plugs out and if it goes then try and start but I'd be careful. However an incident like that should be covered by your insurers so give them a kick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBLATCH Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 i was going slow the water came from the embankment and washed me across the road and settled at around 2.1/2 feet ?bobbing about like a duck try what i said ' because when the engine stalls all four cylinders on return draw back the vacum as the lack of power fails to push them to the outlet position. odds are it won't make any difference water doesn't compress so when the pistons tried to compress it usually you get bent rods. Of course try turning it over by hand with glow plugs out and if it goes then try and start but I'd be careful. However an incident like that should be covered by your insurers so give them a kick i am aware that water doesnt compress and the chances of bending the rods are slim because it is doubtfull the water passes the outlet manifold but if by chance a little has then it will drain itself.also water held at the forepart of the exaust needs to be emptied to avoid any or any further dammage to the gold manicles in the cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 not with a proper hydro lock where the entire air intake sucks up water it literally fills the cylinders, On petrols its bad enough but diesels are even worse due to the higher compression. Bent rods are the usual event if it doesn't stick a rod through the block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBLATCH Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 the chances are the water wont of got as far as that.hydro lock is when you take a decent amount of water into the engine via the intake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 exactly he was in a van in 2 feet of water, that'll do the job on most. Manufacturers put the intakes low to get cool air in but come flood time it kills engines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBLATCH Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 exactly he was in a van in 2 feet of water, that'll do the job on most. Manufacturers put the intakes low to get cool air in but come flood time it kills engines got to agree but i dont think that two feet of water would hit the air intake on a vauxhall astra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 'We' flooded, well trashed the engine actually on a Renault Laguna driving through a ford. Turns out the air intake is in the front vallence :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROBLATCH Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 'We' flooded, well trashed the engine actually on a Renault Laguna driving through a ford.Turns out the air intake is in the front vallence :unsure: if i am not mistaken the aair intake on a vauxhall astra (isuzu engine) is on the left of the bulkhead and fastens to the inner wings 6" below that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 a little bit of movement though will wash it over the air intake, if the engine stopped dead I'd almost place money on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud dad Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 I did exactly the same in my Renault Trafic van. Six grand for a reconditioned engine, luckily the insurance covered it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaseone Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 I did in going through a Ford, it was 1ft when I entered but the old **** on the sluce barrier opened it cos he thought it would help, car was pushed 6ft sidways and died, i had to swim out. I hope it was not the one in Chobham? p.s the car was a Brand new E320cdi Mercedes had 18 miles on the clock,god my sales director was happy. the Insurance wrote it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted January 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 hi it wasnt the depth that got me but the wash that came off the feild that was a big wave over bonnet up window screen the air intake is on drivers side 3/4 of the way up the wing 3-4'' below bonnet.waiting on a report about the engine could be 3 weeks due to there influx of work at the moment. no work or play for the moment wife doesnt want me to get her car dirty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benbaikal Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 towed my mate out of flooded road with my disco last week he as a vectra diesel 14k worth stripped air intake and all intercooler pipes then removed injectors and cranked it over at three minute intervals water gushed out rebuilt it put new air filter in it finally started .plenty steam and about five pints of water out of exhaust now running like a dream no damage done very lucky this man was in tears as his brother had bought him the car to run his elderly mother around and uncle around they were in the car when it happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 get him to keep an eye on it, if it starts sounding any noisier than usual then get it checked, they have a habbit of stressing rods which eventually fail and tend to exit the block writing the engine off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taz24 Posted January 26, 2008 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 i was going slow the water came from the embankment and washed me across the road and settled at around 2.1/2 feet ?bobbing about like a duck Hi BigNoel. Last year I drove my car over a washed out ford and the front end droped into about 2ft of river. I had it towed out. RAC took me home and the insurance wrote it off and paid out. If the Astra is like the peugeot it draws air from below. The RAC guy told me straight away that there would be damage to engin and that the insurance automatically pay out when water enters the foot wells of a vehicle. Apparently the insurance pay out because the manufacturer can't garentee that the water was not contaminated, so they paid out automaticaly. The only problem I had was with the engineers valuation of the car, but that is another story. Cheers taz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.