CARBINE Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Hi all,I own a Navara out law which I bought in may last year new since then I have had paint problems which they gave me £500 back,engine smoking faults,plastic facia faults and electrical faults and now coming back from Newcastle on monday the oil light came on luckily just before a lay by so we pulled in and checked the oil which was full so rang the nissan garage where I bought it and they said it was an electrical fault and it would be alright to drive so we were 200 miles from home and set off, it got us home but the next day taking back to nissan the engine ran dry of oil because the oil pump packed up and wrecked it. now it was full of oil, only8,000 miles and still under warranty but they said today they need my permission to strip it and then when they find out what went wrong and report back to Nissan, well I think I smell a rat here because I know that because my company bought it I don`t have the same rights as a private person. I think I will be going back to a Mitsubushi L200 next. Any legal views would be most welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Sounds like the pickup from hell :good: Better be gone with that one I think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARBINE Posted February 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 you got that right there matey `Pickup from hell`Im sick off it now I will be moving it on when I get it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 just one thing, if the oil pump packed up that would account for the oil light coming on due to lack of pressure but the sump should still have been full of oil. Even if the company owns it if its a fault they know about they should sort it out. I was in a renault laguna when the turbo oil seal went and sent the engine into self destruct. Despite being on 90K and out of warranty and company owned they fitted a new engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARBINE Posted February 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 yer your right it seems there was some pressure drop which made the light come on and it got us home but the next day the pump packed in so it is if it slowly packed up and not immediate and on the way home the light did go off and on but the day after the light stayed on and bang? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyjaimz Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Speaking from personal experiance, Nissan are useless and pretty much bent when it comes to customer service mate, and Navaras are not all they're cracked up to be I had one from new and last may it suffered con-rod failure at 40k miles = dead truck basically. They asked my permission to strip it all aswell before saying that it wasnt covered by the warranty etc etc. See this thread: http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...nt+buy+a+nissan In my opinion, if you look up the word nissan or navara, next to them you should see: no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Just go to trading standards provided you have complied with servicing, warrenty etc. You not the first to suffer from this problem. LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulf Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 These thing are notoriuse, I know several folk who have had the con rod go. Cant wait to get shot of mine next year, the build quality and paint work is very poor and it literally disintergrating. Couple this with a turning circle of a cruise liner! Ill be chopping it in for the new discovery comercial next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natures_son Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 I wouldnt own a nissan again had a few bad experiences with them not with pickups but still put me off them. In my honest opinion if you want a pick up your best bet is a good Toyota Hilux ive got a 1980's diesel 4 speed hilux i use for work. And when the day comes something happens to it il be replacing it with another hilux maybe a petrol one this time though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 As LB says you have a very good case, let them strip it and if they come back with anything other than a replacement engine at their expense then you will need to fight them. Explain that it is their fault entirely for encouraging you to drive the engine home with no oil pressure and that under no circumstances should a pump have failed within 12 months. In my limited opinion it should be a simple warranty claim for them with the slight problem that you've taken advice over the phone from them that you cannot proove if they dispute it. However If you had to go down the small claims route to retrieve the money from them I cannot see any chance you wouldn't get your money back. If you have to go down this route pm me and I'll dig up some info from a friend who fought peugeot for an incorrectly fitted cam belt that failed prematurely that got to court. With preparation the judge was disgusted with their actions including lots of intimidation before the court case and awarded him everything she possibly could Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleaner4hire Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 my old mans had a few pickups Nissan, Mitsi, and the only one he's had no faults with is his current Hilux, which is an excellent motor to drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorchy Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 get rid of the nissan, had one with my last job, always letting me down,replaced it with a ford ranger brillant work horse and you get alot of kit for your money,well worth it, and the toyota hilux best pick up you can buy, i have three mates who have them and they won,t have nothing else, scorhcy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARBINE Posted February 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Thanks to you all for your advice and concern I will keep you posted on this one.my work mate went down to nissan to get some of my stuff out of the truck and he saw the Engine on the floor and the and one of the guys there Said the turbo burned to bits there where bearings in the sump the main bearings where burned out as well and the plus the oil pump was knackered and they still don`t know what caused it `DER` the oil pump might be a clue, Im still smelling a rat here. It had only done 8,000 and its first service was due at 18,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurch Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 As always when the pickup question pops up and the chorus in praise of the Hilux goes up, we had two Hiluxes and both had major engine failure needing four figure repairs. They are pretty bloody far from the bombproof beasts that 'everyone knows' they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARBINE Posted February 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 just to keep you posted I have now gone legal on the advice of the legal Dept at the FSB and they said I have a very good case Against Nissan UK to replace with a NEW truck so I rang nissan UK and told them of my intention to pursue them for a new one, they where alright about it and when I told them about the faults when I first bought it they did not even know about them yet I was paid £500 for the paint problems from the dealer.when I was talking to the garage today this guy told me they still have not found the cause of it so I mention to him about the lad working on it `said the oil pump is knackered` he said it has only a couple of scores in it,well thats all it takes, then he went into mumbling mode as they do.Any way the ball is rolling now legally so we will see what happens. Will keep you`s posted.carbine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurch Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Who's your dealer mate? pm me if you don't want to post it. Reckon I know but just want to be sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 I get a brand new fridge freezer tomorrow Carbine. All down to the threat of Trading Standards and Comet crumpled. So will Nissan. LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARBINE Posted February 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 yer I`v been on to T/S and believe me or not they said because my company bought it I DO NOT have the same rights as a private buyer but they do have a duty of care to me `what the hell is all that about` but the solicitors say no problem in getting a new truck out off them so I guess it will be a long waiting game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARBINE Posted February 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Well it looks like Im not gonna get a new truck out of the dealers now due to the lawyers saying that because the truck is 8 months old and has 8k on it that a judge would most likely side with them and it would be risky and I could end up paying all the fees, so I will have to submit and have it back. The good thing is it is having a full new engine and also they have agreed to respray the front bumper where that woman scuffed me as a good will gesture so as soon as I get it back ITS FOR SALE.---carbine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurch Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 A new engine sounds like a result to me mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARBINE Posted February 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 yer they say its gonna be a full new engine and they say I will get it back on monday so yes it is a result, thanks lurch---carbine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 yer they say its gonna be a full new engine and they say I will get it back on monday so yes it is a result, thanks lurch---carbine Quite right too. It's not even a year old. Glad you got the right result Carbine LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARBINE Posted February 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Thanks lurcherboy---Carbine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 If your really peed off with them you also have a claim for loss of earnings as its a work vehicle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARBINE Posted March 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 (edited) Nows there`s a point, thanks for that. I went yesterday to see if I could pick it up but they are still road testing it and they had the bumper sprayed and it looks good too.I will be getting back tomorrow and by have I missed it . Edited March 2, 2008 by CARBINE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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