need help

[Pushkin]

Russ91 cool man - they have some pictures of some of the perpetrators anyway. I don't think that will stop the police stopping you and confiscating your rifle though - you are still breaking the law. I understand that may be heartbreaking for you to accept as you're obviously very keen on your shooting. However - this isn't the wild west you live in when a boys gotta be a man at all times. Use common sense and get yourself an adult responsible enough to accompany you when out with your rifle or go to a piece of private ground where you won't come across tossers like those in the photo. Remember - to enjoy your shooting to the maximum, you must first of all observe the law of the land you want to shoot in even if that means doing without for a bit longer. Don't fall foul of the law mate

 

Pushkin

[russ91]

i have my own permishon but i am realy keen and as i have so much time i do go out quite a lot even if its just plinking. i do shooti with fullbore quite often but im not gunna depend on people to take me out.

[gibby]

Accord to my Firearms Acts compliation, if you are under 18 you cannot have a air weapon in a public place AT ALL. Also you need good reason, and the reason must be on you.

 

In otherwords you will need proof that you are 18 or over and proof that you have permission to shoot somewhere.

 

Big Sam you are wrong, you can have it in a public place if its covered up, which covers walking to and from your permision. And russ can use the rifle and does not have to be 18 to do so, it even says that in your link.

 

Gibby

[russ91]

thanks gibby

[Ferret Master]

He can shoot the rifle legally on permission unaccompanied from the age of 14.

 

Just thought I would clear that up.

 

FM

[Big_Sam]

Accord to my Firearms Acts compliation, if you are under 18 you cannot have a air weapon in a public place AT ALL. Also you need good reason, and the reason must be on you.

 

In otherwords you will need proof that you are 18 or over and proof that you have permission to shoot somewhere.

 

Big Sam you are wrong, you can have it in a public place if its covered up, which covers walking to and from your permision. And russ can use the rifle and does not have to be 18 to do so, it even says that in your link.

 

Gibby

 

HE CANNOT have it in a public place unless accompanied.

 

 

14-17 years old:

 

You cannot

 

* buy or hire an air rifle, or ammunition, or receive them as a gift. Your air rifle and ammunition must be bought and looked after by someone over 18 – normally your parent, guardian or some other responsible adult.

* have an air rifle in a public place unless you are supervised by somebody aged 21 or over, and you have a reasonable excuse to do so (for example, while on the way to a shooting ground).

[gibby]

Big Sam, i don't agree with that, again from the home office firearms guidance,

 

"7.3 Section 22(5) of the 1968 Act makes it

an offence for any person under the age of

seventeen to have an air weapon with them

in any public place except:

a) as a member of an approved club while

engaged as such in or in connection with

target shooting (Section 23(2)(a) of the

1968 Act); or

B while at a shooting gallery where only air

weapons or miniature rifles not exceeding

.23 inch calibre are used (section 23B of

the 1968 Act); or

c) where the air gun or an air rifle (but

not an air pistol) is so covered with a

securely fastened gun cover so that it

cannot be fired;"

 

 

Gibby

[markbivvy]

Big Sam, i don't agree with that, again from the home office firearms guidance,

 

"7.3 Section 22(5) of the 1968 Act makes it

an offence for any person under the age of

seventeen to have an air weapon with them

in any public place except:

a) as a member of an approved club while

engaged as such in or in connection with

target shooting (Section 23(2)(a) of the

1968 Act); or

B while at a shooting gallery where only air

weapons or miniature rifles not exceeding

.23 inch calibre are used (section 23B of

the 1968 Act); or

c) where the air gun or an air rifle (but

not an air pistol) is so covered with a

securely fastened gun cover so that it

cannot be fired;"

 

 

Gibby

 

The Anti-Social Behaviour Act 2003 Sec 37 amends Section 19 of The Firearms Act 1968, which deals with possessing certain firearms in a public place.

[Big_Sam]

Big Sam, i don't agree with that, again from the home office firearms guidance,

 

"7.3 Section 22(5) of the 1968 Act makes it

an offence for any person under the age of

seventeen to have an air weapon with them

in any public place except:

a) as a member of an approved club while

engaged as such in or in connection with

target shooting (Section 23(2)(a) of the

1968 Act); or

B while at a shooting gallery where only air

weapons or miniature rifles not exceeding

.23 inch calibre are used (section 23B of

the 1968 Act); or

c) where the air gun or an air rifle (but

not an air pistol) is so covered with a

securely fastened gun cover so that it

cannot be fired;"

 

 

Gibby

 

The VCR Act 2007 updated that, you now have to be 18.

 

Check the updated rules: http://www.basc.org.uk/media/firearms_acts...copy_-_2007.pdf

[gibby]

Big Sam, I didn't realise it had been updated, many thanks will re-learn.

 

Cheers

 

Gibby

[Big_Sam]

No problem.

 

The Home Office guidelines are now effectively out of date for some things.

[Graham M]

14 – 17 years*

You can

· borrow an air rifle and ammunition

· use an air rifle, without supervision, on private premises where you have permission

 

I understand that the land you shoot on would constitute private premises……but perhaps someone knows better.

G.M.

[russ91]

farm is privet and i do have writen permishon to shoot on there

[Big_Sam]

The only problem is the transporting of the gun to the permission.

[bob300w]

14 – 17 years*

You can

· borrow an air rifle and ammunition

· use an air rifle, without supervision, on private premises where you have permission

 

I understand that the land you shoot on would constitute private premises……but perhaps someone knows better.

G.M.

Under the Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006 (c38) part 2 Weapons;

Most of the items that applied to 17 year-olds have been increased to 18 year-olds.

 

Air rifle owners of the age concerned should check the law at their Police HQ, Air rifle owning by minors has now become a legal minefield. All minors and their parents/guardians should read; Home Office Circular 012/2007. Violent crime reduction Act 2006 (commencement No2) order 2007: Firearms measures.

Quote;

for section 22(1) (aquisition and possession of firearms by minors);

(1) it is an offence(a) for a person under the age of 18 to purchase or hire an air weapon or ammunition for an air weapon.

 

It should also be noted that under this act, (s24) it is also an offence to supply imitation firearms to minors, as I said, it's a legal minefield and maximum sentences have all been increased.

[Graham M]

So a decent young lads sport has been ******** because of the scum in society.

Makes you want to puke don’t it.

G.M.

[russ91]

thanks guys i dont now what to do now

[Big_Sam]

Just find someone over 21 who will walk to your shoot with you.

[russ91]

easyer said than done

[Big_Sam]

Take a taxi?

[Jim Sarakun]

Leave the gun at the permission, with the farmer maybe, or in his barn? So you can get to it without dragging him out of the pub that is.

Edited February 28, 2008 by Jim Sarakun

[russ91]

what and pay £5 each way on a student's buget

[russ91]

Leave the gun at the permission, with the farmer maybe, or in his barn? So you can get to it without dragging him out of the pub that is.

 

 

id rather not with the rising number of robberies on farms.

[Big_Sam]

In that case your only option is a Shotgun.

 

Then when you are 17 you can legally carry that to your shoot.

 

ruddy laws are stupid!!

[russ91]

yes i now mate thanks for the info anyway