Zapp Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Guys I've seen a lot of threads on here about running old diesels on part veg oil and part diesel. I have been running my fourtrak in this way since august last year, but have watched with horror the price of veg oil rise to roughly that of diesel per litre. The best deal I could find up until today was lidl, who were charging £1.15 per litre. I've just been to waitrose of all places and seen it for 95p per litre Needless to say, the fourtrak is now fully fuelled! Just thought I would pass that on in case any of you are doing the same and wanted to save a couple of bob. ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeksofdoom Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 What mix of Veg oil to diesel are you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted June 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Around 50/50, but I have gone higher (on the oil) than this before - the fourtrak has injectors similar to those of a Russian tank! I ease back in winter though because the cold causes the oil to thicken and can cause starting problems. In general I go anywhere between 30/70 (diesel/oil) to 50/50 in summer, and 60/40 to 70/30 in winter. The usual caveats in so far as regularly changing fuel filters apply of course. ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusk2dawn Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Guys I've seen a lot of threads on here about running old diesels on part veg oil and part diesel. I have been running my fourtrak in this way since august last year, but have watched with horror the price of veg oil rise to roughly that of diesel per litre. The best deal I could find up until today was lidl, who were charging £1.15 per litre. I've just been to waitrose of all places and seen it for 95p per litre Needless to say, the fourtrak is now fully fuelled! Just thought I would pass that on in case any of you are doing the same and wanted to save a couple of bob. ZB thanks for the info, I shall raid the local Waitrose in the morning D2D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted June 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 No worries. What car are you going to be running it on? I hear that some of the more modern diesels can get knackered by using veg oil - no probs for those of us with proper old workhorses (mine is a '94 plate). ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusk2dawn Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 No worries. What car are you going to be running it on? I hear that some of the more modern diesels can get knackered by using veg oil - no probs for those of us with proper old workhorses (mine is a '94 plate). ZB 94 300tdi defender done 164k and still going strong (touch wood), I run it on 25% veg oil as rec by LB awhile back, smells coming from it make me feel peckish, dont know what Charlie makes of it D2D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted June 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 (edited) 94 300tdi defender done 164k and still going strong (touch wood), I run it on 25% veg oil as rec by LB awhile back, smells coming from it make me feel peckish, dont know what Charlie makes of it D2D Ah well you'll have no probs running that As for the smell, yes, I tend to find I am starving by the time I get in after driving my shooting wagon (mine smells like a barbeque). I've driven behind a mate who uses waste oil from a chippy before and that was pure torture. I am ashamed to say I stopped off at my local chip shop straight after for cod & chips ZB Edited June 17, 2008 by Zapp Brannigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiercel Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 What happens if you get stopped and dipped? TC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Ask if they want salt & vinegar on it ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted June 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 What happens if you get stopped and dipped? TC Nothing - the law changed in 2007 to the effect that you can use up to 2500 litres of oil per annum before you have to register for taxation. IMHO you would only raise eyebrows if you were using a very high mix, had a heater unit installed or were using pure oil/white spirit mix. ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted June 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 (edited) Ask if they want salt & vinegar on it ?? Stop it STOP IT STOP IT - all I can think of now is fish and chips... Perhaps this is why I am a bit of a tubster these days, and is nothing to do with my self diagnosis of big bones and genetic disposition toward lardaholism. ZB Edited June 17, 2008 by Zapp Brannigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiercel Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 As I understood it the 2500 litre conssesion was for home made Bio-Diesel. Not for raw veg oil. If it is I am off to Waitrose in the morning. TC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted June 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 No it applies to Veg oil also. Here is a link: Clicky The terms "user" (as in vehicle fuel) and "producer" are interchangeable in this law, so yes, you can use 2500 ltr of veg oil as a fuel supplement per annum and pay no extra tax ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeksofdoom Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 I suppose half filling the tank of a 2003 Audi A6 would probably **** it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted June 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 I suppose half filling the tank of a 2003 Audi A6 would probably **** it up! I'm no mechanic, but I would have to say a big fat yes to that! Any Audi drivers prepared too give it a stab? ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 how much 77698 ES Vegetable Oil PM79 15 1ltr £8.30 http://www.booker.co.uk/catalog/searchcate...mp;keywords=oil and yes it would ****** the audi , good quality bio would be ok though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 (edited) Thanks for the heads up. I've just emailed them to see if emergency services qualify for membership. Edited June 17, 2008 by DaveK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clay scarer Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 just thought i would add mt t`punce worth i run my 96` hilux on a 50/50 mix of veg /diesel wich i get from costco nr lakeside @ around £15 for 20ltr it`s well worth joining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted June 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 Hmmm, I wonder if there is one near me... ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 how much 77698 ES Vegetable Oil PM79 15 1ltr £8.30 http://www.booker.co.uk/catalog/searchcate...mp;keywords=oil and yes it would ****** the audi , good quality bio would be ok though it'll be plus vat if from a cash and carry, Fortunately mine goes on the company fuel card so at least the vat comes back but if you do a 50 do mix diesel and oil with a 50 litre tank you're saving approx £6.25 is it really worth taking the chance of clogged injectors and a knackered pump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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