billywhiz Posted January 3, 2003 Report Share Posted January 3, 2003 well as title surgests is it legal to shoot geese with an air-rifle(FAC) now i am no expert but i was always led to belive that to shoot game with a rifle it had to be with expanding ammo . can some one put me right on this matter stevo P.S just to point out that i have no intention of doing this its just an inqury thats all . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elma Fud Posted January 5, 2003 Report Share Posted January 5, 2003 The simple answer is i dont know. I maybe wrong, but a Lead pellet will expand on impact, thus giving you expanding ammo. Solids are what target or army rifles fire (Full Metal Jacket) and are designed not to expand as fast as soft nose rounds. The person to speak to would be Hammergun, he's quite clued up on these issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 of 5 Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 A rabbit is the largest legal airgun quarry for 12ft/lb ers. AFAIK a fac airgun is still an airgun for this purpose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 for deer it is law to use expanding ammo we tend to use lead core copper jacket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammergun Posted January 6, 2003 Report Share Posted January 6, 2003 Sorry - I only know about shotguns, and a little on airguns. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NGhost Posted January 7, 2003 Report Share Posted January 7, 2003 I think it is legal, It is with a 22rf if not excluded in your licence. But Geese are tough and are difficult to kill cleanly with the rf, please dont use an air rifle. :X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NGhost Posted January 9, 2003 Report Share Posted January 9, 2003 Sorry this is wrong. The act only bans lead SHOT. Bullets are not covered and so remain legal. (I have just had this discusion with the BASC legal department who confirm this). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.Shuter Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 A rabbit is the largest legal airgun quarry for 12ft/lb ers. an fac airgun is still an airgun for this purpose No,your wrong,there is no "largest legal airgun quarry" It is perfectly legal to shoot foxes with an air weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 but would be highly irresponsible and cruel......even with an FAC air weapon. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malc Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 I agree totally with Deako. I believe in using the right tool for the job. Airguns have a certain usefulness but absolutely not for creatures the stature of a fox, or a goose for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billm Posted January 28, 2003 Report Share Posted January 28, 2003 anyone tell me how hard it is to get a (FAC) for a air-rifle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted January 28, 2003 Report Share Posted January 28, 2003 get an fac can take a few months) and ask to have it put on#!! :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil Posted January 28, 2003 Report Share Posted January 28, 2003 Hi Billm,getting a fac for an airrifle is no more or less hard than for any section one firearm,ie you have to fill out the same forms,get 2 referees etc,the only thing that may make it easier is A,getting land approved for air rifle will be easier and B,if you have no experiance with rifle shooting but have experiance with air rifles you are more likely to be approved than if you applied straight out for a centerfire.Theres quite a few posts on here on the subject and a link to a webpage that takes you through the fom in easy to understand steps.Hope this helps a bit :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billm Posted January 28, 2003 Report Share Posted January 28, 2003 Neil, thanks for the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammergun Posted January 28, 2003 Report Share Posted January 28, 2003 My mate was looking at getting a FAC air rifle to begin with. He says forget getting a FAC air rifle and go for a .22 rimfire - they are much cheaper than a decent FAC air rifle, no harder to get a cert for and better for the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NGhost Posted January 29, 2003 Report Share Posted January 29, 2003 I agree with hammergun. The rimfire will also make less noise than a FAC precharged. Is simple to change the power you just change the round.A rimfire will cost as little as £80. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billm Posted January 30, 2003 Report Share Posted January 30, 2003 Thanks for the help lads, one more question. Already have the air-rifle a theoben sirrocco one of the first they made, its on 12lb but can be pushed up to i think they told me 28lb, would i be able to use it on the same fac if i was granted one for a .22 rimfire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean johnston Posted January 30, 2003 Report Share Posted January 30, 2003 Thanks for the help lads, one more question. Already have the air-rifle a theoben sirrocco one of the first they made, its on 12lb but can be pushed up to i think they told me 28lb, would i be able to use it on the same fac if i was granted one for a .22 rimfire Billm.Regardless of how many firearms you own each one goes on your certificate seperately along with the rifles identification mark/number and calibre.So you will not be able to use your fac air gun legally unless you have it on your firearms certificate. Regards sean. Ps-Did you recieve my reply to your message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billm Posted January 30, 2003 Report Share Posted January 30, 2003 Sean, sent you a e-mail yesterday, will send you a copy directly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 I think you will find it is against the law to shoot any wildfowl with a rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.223 Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 My dad asked permission of the local police to shoot geese with his rifle to use his .22 rimfire.He could not shoot them with a shot gun as it was near a supermarket and the owner thought it would be to loud and attract to much attention.However the lake had to be totally cleared of all people before he could go ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 My dad got permission of the local police to shoot geese with his rifle he used his .22 rimfire headshots only. He could not shoot them with a shot gun as it was near a supermarket and the owner thought it would be to loud and attract to much attention. I would have to do some research but, I don't think that the police had the authority to give your dad any such permission, but I may be wrong. I would have thought it would have to come from some other agency or other and be issued under the 1954 Protection of birds act. Perhaps you could scan in a copy of the permit (hiding any names and addresses) and post it here. I am allowed to used my rifles wherever I think it is safe, but I wouldn't risk shooting wildfowl with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 Thanks for the help lads, one more question. Already have the air-rifle a theoben sirrocco one of the first they made, its on 12lb but can be pushed up to i think they told me 28lb, would i be able to use it on the same fac if i was granted one for a .22 rimfire An engineering lecturer at our local college was heavily into any form of shooting and as he got older it was airgunning with a precharged pneumatic. He once told me that it was pointless trying to put more power behind the pellets because they (at that time anyway) would not be stable enough to maintain accuracy. As has been said, if you can get a certificate for a .22 rimfire then get one of those. It will be quieter than a spring air rifle if you get a moderator. Don't forget to have the moderator put on the certificate. I know you can buy the same ones for an air rifle, but you will need it on your certificate to put it on a rimfire weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NGhost Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 It is quite legal to shoot water birds with a rifle. As I mention earlyer in this thread I checked with the basc legal department as I was asked to shoot canadas on a pond. They checked my fac and as it did not say "ground game only" (I think that was the bit) it was ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NGhost Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 One of the chaps on our shoot has a 70ft/lb air rifle. It strips the edges of normal pelets, so he has to use lead bullets they look just like the top of 22RF rounds. This is a precharged rifle and is still a lot noisier than my RF both have moderators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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