ollie Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_irelan...and/4044897.stm What are your views on this? I'm sure the farmers among us will have views on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aled_cky Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 my day of worship has finally come, im in the middle of doing a piece of coursework so i'll read it after.. but i didnt see any badgers out tonight, but i didnt go into any badger-set fields. Aled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon master Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 Ollie, As a keen badger watcher a few year years ago I have a real passion for animals, they’re very social and very intelligent acting very similar to a dog would at times. I was involved in deploying surveillance equipment on lots of sets that were used by Oxford University to study their behaviour, they had multiple cameras on a number of sets and had many thousands of hours of these animals, some of the clips were great, one I remember was a badger stuck its nose out of the hole and a Tawny owl flew down and tried to catch it thinking it was a small creature, the buggar got a shock when it discovered there was a badger on the end of it. As for your question….I think if the cull was carried out humanely with tests on each badger set then we have to look at lifting protection on these animals for examples like the one in the story. How can a farmer cope with that? As for the scum that dig these out from their sets and bait them with dogs…. well these just want injecting. I love Badgers and always will, but if we need to take diseased animals to help protect the majority then that’s what needs doing, both parties the farmers and Badgers alike. The PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon78 Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 I think that calling badger baiters "scum" is a little harsh. Despite this activity being illegal now, in the 'old days' it was a legitimate method of controlling these creatures as well as a good method for getting badgers for their skins. I am also sure that there are people like you, that enjoy watching foxes, so does that make fox diggers scum, also? We can all get slightly hypocritical at times, cant we? Although I do consider shooting with a rifle the best possible method to cull badgers, should the need and legislation for it arise. Happy shooting Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 'As for the scum that dig these out from their sets and bait them with dogs…. well these just want injecting.' Here Here - Anyboby that gets enjoyment out of badger baiting is one sick ******* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted December 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 P.M. there has been some nights while out lamping that I have come across a badger and watched it for ages because they are so interesting like you said. If a badger cull was to happen they must make sure it's controlled, so as no healthy animals die. As for the badger diggers I think it is a disgrace if it's still being done and the people that do it need disciplined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 If it is a DEFRA cull, it will be carried out by DEFRA appointed personnel, in specific areas. Its not as though the normal protection will be lifted on badgers in Northern Ireland, for anyone to shoot them. I believe these culls take place in the UK, more often than we realise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon78 Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 Yes, these Defra culls are carried out a lot more than some people realise. There are cage traps set not too far from where I live and all captured badgers in a given time span that are caught are shot, or dispatched humanely. However, the farmers that get their enitire herds culled because of TB from the badgers are only too pleased to see them controlled. Defra do act upon scientific facts and not just opinion. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon78 Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 Oh, and im not condoning badger baiting, im just saying that the phrase "scum" should be retained for people that commit acts such as vandalising garaveyards, as seen not too far from me recently. happy shooting Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aled_cky Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 yeah dont they catch the badgers in cages and then release them on either the land next door or on land elsewhere? like Raven's are being released from the Tower of London reguarly now. Aled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 badger digging used to be legal, watched by royals o lot of years ago. like fox hunting. badger baiting is a different thing done by idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 Shoot every last muffa ****a one of them. LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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