sean johnston Posted January 12, 2003 Report Share Posted January 12, 2003 If you are like me and dont have a 4x4 to get your gear right to your hide,what do you use to carry all the gear us pigeon shooters have.I must admit i am terrible for buying new kit for shooting and have a lot to carry.I was thinking of getting a rucksack.Any suggestions much appreciated. Regards sean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil Posted January 12, 2003 Report Share Posted January 12, 2003 An army surplus kit bag from ebay,it cost about 6quid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted January 12, 2003 Report Share Posted January 12, 2003 sean, if you are shooting over crops, even a 4x4 may not be welcome on the farmers field. I have a large net haversack, which holds my decoys and cammo nets. My gun is in a sleeve and my hide poles, seat and floaters, are in a carry bag with a sling. I have a similar sling with my rotary device in. I also have a shoulder bag for food,drink, cartridges and rotary battery. This lot goes on my back, over my neck, round my shoulders etc. Its made me tired just thinking about it. In fairness, none of this is particularly heavy, its just awkward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_stag88 Posted January 12, 2003 Report Share Posted January 12, 2003 My friend has an old golf trolly with good tyers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Pudding Posted January 12, 2003 Report Share Posted January 12, 2003 Sean you need to get yourself an "apprentice" all the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammergun Posted January 12, 2003 Report Share Posted January 12, 2003 An old canvas sail bag for the deeks and netting if you can find one. Otherwise try army surplus for kit bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernyha Posted January 12, 2003 Report Share Posted January 12, 2003 I have a 4+4 but as cranfield says,you can only get so far when the crops are growing or you will end up doing more damage than the pigeons.I have an army rucksack with side pouches for the nets,extra clothing,tools,food & drink and a multitude of other odds and ****.Another army bag with 15 plastic deacs in,bag for the rotor,cartridge bag,car battery and of course a 12bore in a slip.Hide poles,cradles and folding stool all clipped to the rucksack.Oh and nearly forgot Daviddjlloyd to help me carry it as well as his own gear. :C :what: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted January 12, 2003 Report Share Posted January 12, 2003 i use an old army kit bag the same as the others , brought from amry surplus shop about 15 quid and an old gun slip for poles and magnet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-n Posted January 12, 2003 Report Share Posted January 12, 2003 use a kit bag(ex-german navy in my case)problem is wen loaded i cant stand up peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted January 12, 2003 Report Share Posted January 12, 2003 The N&S bag and seat in one, really good........you can see some pics on Martins wildfowling site, under shooting suppliers.These things stand about 4 foot tall and will take all your kit easily(thats another plug for you Mike!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 I got fed up with all the various bits of kit hanging from shoulders, back, neck, etc. Last year made a big effort to reduce the weight and size of my kit. Changed my full bodied flexicoys for stackable shell decoys. Chopped the old smelly army net for a new Moorland one. Swapped my old heavy rotor for a pinewood. Bought a fishing rod bag that's a bit like a longer version of a golf bag. Every thing goes in the top, rotor, hide poles, lofters, flappers, etc. It has a nifty fishing brollie pouch on the outside that my gun fits in perfectly. The rest of the kit goes in a nylon waterproof rucksack along with my flask and grub. The rucksack has a waist strap that helps take the load. It makes it very easy to hike across fields and I can still stand when I get to the other end!! Failing that, I chuck it in the 4x4 if the terrain is suitable and unlikely to cause damage to land or vehicle . In fact, many of the field we shoot have a 10'-15' wide grass verge along maybe one or two sides that is ideal for driving on. What purpose does this serve as it's not cover crop? I'll have to ask the farmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean johnston Posted January 13, 2003 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 Thankyou for the replies lads.I am going to look on internet for ex army kit bags which i should be able to fit most bits of kit in.However this still leaves the home made rotor which is heavy (about 12lbs) and although the machine works well i do find the weight a big problem.After hearing about the pinewood rotors massive running time and it being lightweight i am very tempted to buy one in the near future. Regards sean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 Thinking back, a mate of mine tried a golfing trolley with wide wheels to distribute the load. I seem to remember that it worked OK for a while but the clay and soil clogged up the wheels very quickly. I think he ended up dragging the thing along. I don't think it was used again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flightline Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 Tony, Before you posted I was thinking about using one of those fisherman`s carry-alls for rods etc-and about how heavy my rotacoy is, with all the gear I put into its case as well-net, poles and other bits. I also carry a large game bag with shell decoys, battery, food and drink, stool. That plus gun and shell bag and I`m literally staggering in muddy conditions at times! So thanks for the info. Question though: how do you stop the shell decoys turning to face downwind? For some reason this seems to be worse with the on guard or lookout position. Sounds like the Kama Sutra that last bit. :S :*) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 To stop the shells swinging round and turning down wind, I got some of N&S spring pegs. They are a stiffish spring steel, strip of metal, with a two type connection at the top. The first bit(the top of the fitting) is for the shell. The second bit(the bottom of the fitting) is for full bodied decoys. The shell "nods", but both decoys rock in the breeze, because of the spring steel peg. Its really good to see the whole decoy layout moving, looks very natural. They are the best I have used. They cost me £15 for 10 in a bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted January 14, 2003 Report Share Posted January 14, 2003 Flightline, I use a similiar peg to Cranfileds N&S spring sticks. The typeI have are from pinewood. They consist of a pointed dowel rod which forms the bottom part of the peg. The top section is a flat blade shaped pice of plastic that plugs into the slot of the shell. The two parts are joined by a coil spring that provides the wobble. The spring can slide up and down the plastic bit to vary the wobble. With the max spring showing the shell moves about even in very low wind conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead-eye-dick Posted January 14, 2003 Report Share Posted January 14, 2003 The N&S bag and seat in one, really good........you can see some pics on Martins wildfowling site, under shooting suppliers.These things stand about 4 foot tall and will take all your kit easily(thats another plug for you Mike!). I had seen that and looked good, how tall is the seat, when being sat upon. is the seat inside the bag or do you get the bottom of your bag dirty when sitting in a ploughed field. And the $64,000,000 question, HOW MUCH.. marks out of ten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flightline Posted January 14, 2003 Report Share Posted January 14, 2003 Thanks to Cranfield and Tony for the advice. I went onto the N&S Shooting Supplies site at work today-believe me it was a relief from what`s going on currently-and was impressed with the stuff they had there. The site was new to me and I do not get paid for saying this! :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted January 14, 2003 Report Share Posted January 14, 2003 flightline, I don,t think any of us get paid to promote products ,or receive "freebies" to review, I certainly don,t. I think if we are all buying similar types of products and have good, or bad experiences, we should pass them on. I think the N&S range is good, I,m still not sure about their foam decoys for floaters and rotarys, but as I usually have a couple of dead birds in the freezer, I don,t have to rely on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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