cooky Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Ok what are the disadvantages in 20g compared to a 12g i have never shot a 20g only a 12g so i would like so advice on 20g's cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 lighter mainly as far as i could tell mate you have to be careful to store 12 and 20 cartridges seperately as if you drop a 20 down your barrel then a 12 you will blow your barrel out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooky Posted January 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Nice sig Jordan where did you get it from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snotty Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 20 gauge is there for those who bruise more easily than us macho types. For those who prefer something gentler on the shoulder at events where a 12 gauge would normally be expected. How's that? Explained 20 gauge and didn't say "girly", not once Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 The shells are more pricey than a 12, also you are usually chucking only 7/8oz of lead at the bird as opposed to 1&1/8 oz if you are using a 12. Do yourself and the birds a favour, stick to a 12 bore, if you speak to the pro's in this sport they wouldn't consider a 20 for serious pigeon shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 people say that 20's have less recoil, but they dont, they fire very similar weights of lead, and are often sold in light weight guns, so often have almost as much recoil as a 12, its a matter of preferance, i know lots of people that just cant get on with 20's, not real reason just cant, ive only fired one a handful of times but this is my understanding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Do yourself and the birds a favour, stick to a 12 bore, if you speak to the pro's in this sport they wouldn't consider a 20 for serious pigeon shooting. As price of shells there ,i cant say but here not much dif' pending shot size and load . As to preferance ,a lot of shooters will lean towards carrying the lighter gun around the fields as opposed to the 12 gauge ,a few hours into a shoot and your arms can feel like their dragging the ground, a large number of upland game shooters here prefer the 20g ,or even the 28g ,they both hit well if pointed in the right direction. As to speaking to the "pro's" there are many guys and girls who shoot as well with a 20g as the 12g , the old saying of "if your on ,you'l hit it " come's to mind . Not picking on your comments DH just offering an opinion . Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernyha Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 I have only ever fired a 20 once when a chap handed it to me at a clay shoot and said have a go. The four shots I fired with it gave me much more kick than any 12 bore I had ever fired. When I mentioned it, he said that was because he was using heavier load cartridges. Personally I have never seen the attraction of owning one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aled_cky Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 i find 20g's have more kick.. even if they cost over £5k.. than a 12g.. the 20g is too light for my liking... at the end of the day, its up to you.... as others have said.. never put a 20g cartridge down a 12g barrel.. a few of my relatives have known people who had a 20 cartridge in their pocket.. loaded it in.. thought the gun was empty after they next fired.. put a 12 down which was ontop of it and have never heard of anyone living to tell the tale. Aled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millo2 Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Ive never shot anything lighter than a twelve, even since I started shooting at about 7/8, I've always been a naturally big lad, so found I could handle the weight etc. I suppose I would notice a difference in carrying a twelve around on a driven day, but I've gotten used to a 12 and will probably stay with it for the rest of my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 enr ,either your getting old or soft or both :o i have a miroku in 20g and like it a lot ,the recoil is slight as the stock is solid ,the other 20g i use is at the range whilst teaching junior and female shooters . its a franchi 5 shot semi ,light not to long in pull length and little felt recoil, most of the guys i teach like it to start with CUZ IT DONT BITE horses for cources Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernyha Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 I've always been a naturally big lad. Now we know why Jess is always chatting to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 .. a few of my relatives have known people who had a 20 cartridge in their pocket.. loaded it in.. thought the gun was empty after they next fired.. put a 12 down which was ontop of it and have never heard of anyone living to tell the tale. Aled somebody must have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millo2 Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 I've always been a naturally big lad. Now we know why Jess is always chatting to you. :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubertus Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 i would always prefer a 12g. The cartridges over here are less expensive in comparison to 20 and you can shoot anything between 24 to 50 gramm of lead (with a 76mm chamber). Hubertus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Anyone who wants to see what a 20 bore can really perform like, on the pigeons, can have a day out with me in the summer. Then there will be no arguement as to its abilities... Just ask some of the high driven pheasants it killed today in the gale force winds in North Wales. (That said, there was one bloody high drive, with the birds rocketing towards you, and being blown sideways, with tails at 45 degrees, where I only managed 4 kills for 21 shots!!! :*) ) On the whole though, it'll do everything a 12 bore will for Mr. Average. So there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ernyha Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 I certainly wasn't saying a 20 couldn't be as good as a 12 bore in the right hands Deako but that I think it is a bit of a myth thinking there is a lot less recoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilishdave Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 I realy dont get the recoil thing with a 12My gun has an extra pound in the but to get it to balance over the pivit pin and the recoil is negligable even firing 36gm all day wont bruise. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 ern, You're right about the recoil, same as a 12 with the right carts. I use 20's for their lightness and fast handling, on everything except geese... and cape buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millo2 Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Just out of interest Deako, why is a 20 faster handling? Genuine question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aled_cky Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 lighter and more slimeline i'd say... like a lorry in a race against a Honda Intergra Type R... not quite asbad as that.. but the quickness and fast handling that you can mount a 20 is very good... and your reaction speeds help with that aswell though Aled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millo2 Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 But surely if you are big and strong enough, then it shouldnt make a massive difference. I think I would feel like I was holding a toy with a 20, and probably affect the swing I am used to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilishdave Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 The light weight makes it more portable Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deako Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Forgive me Father, for I have sinned..... I agree with Aled!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millo2 Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 There cant be that much difference in weight to make a huge difference surely? I'm used to throwing 80-90kg up in the gym when in training for rugby, so do you think I would benefit from a change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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