Foxer Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Got very bored today so was having a walk about the farm yard and saw an old gas bottle. Thought hmmm?.. what can i do with that? decided it would make a nice little woodburner for the garage should keep me warm while working on my car, the joys of owning an old VW Before i start if you have a go at this make sure its totally empty i purged mine by taking the valve out the top and filling up with water. mine had been standing on the farm for years with the tap open so might be best to leave it a while also. This is a 19kg gas bottle, seems a good size but i guess they vary in different sizes. First thing once its empty mark out the door shape and drill a hole in each corner. I started with a small drill bit and worked up to about a 10mm. Then you need to cut out the shape. I used an elecric hacksaw. You could probably use a hand one but it would be hard work. Thats all ive done today Got too bloody cold my fingers wouldnt work properly. Will try do a bit more tomorrow, maybe put some hinges on and cut the hole for the flu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 I can see the shape comming on fine and should be perfect with hinges holding the door on.A gas cylinder is a good choice for shape-i'd never have thought of using one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxer Posted January 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Yeah seemed a waste to just leave it rusting. I hope i do actually finish making it though as i do have a habit of starting lots of projects then get fed up/annoyed with them and end up chucking them on the scrap pile I'll try update it through the stages if anyones remotely interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Stalker Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 I made one years ago very similar to yours from an idea from my uncle, he was invited into an old ****** horse driven caravan one winter, & he had one of these smoking away in the corner with a kettle steaming away on top, he said it was almost tropical in there What you need to do is cut a flue hole at the top/back & weld a chimney to vent the smoke out, another nice touch is to weld a mesh door on the front, & stick a hot plate on the top, if I had to give any criticism the hole you cut is a little large. You won t believe the heat these things throw out, burning up any old sraps of wood you've got lying about My uncles been making them for years & I understand half of South Bucks has em. I'll get a pic up of mine. SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 look forward to seeing this completed.... an air control valve would be useful if you put a solid door on .... saves tons of wood and gives you so much more control of the heat output Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Any plan for easily emptying the ash / burnt material? BTW nice thread and good darts on the piccies. Awaiting next instalment with interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staglioni Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 looking good mate stag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Stalker Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Here's the pics of my burner Mung Once the ashes are cool just scoop them out in to a bag SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxer Posted January 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) SS- I have some pipe i was going to use for a flue but not sure if its good enough, its a bit thin. Have to look about and see what else is laying around. would be good to see how you did your one.. malk&mung- The piece i cut out is going to be the door so yeah its going to be solid. There will be another slot cut out underneath this main door for getting out the ash and i might try to put some sort of valve on there. Im going to put some strong mesh inside as a sort of floor between the large door and the yet to be cut smaller one, so as it burns it falls through. (in theory ) edit: you posted while i was.. looks good Edited January 10, 2009 by Foxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxer Posted January 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Didn't have much time today so just did a couple of things. managed to bolt the door on with some hinges sorted out a small latch to keep the door shut and butcherd an old bbq grill to fit inside. Still trying to think of a good way to get the ashes out easily without letting in too much air. Might just end up leaving it with the one large door and tip the ashes out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDFrain Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 regarding getting the ashes out, why not cut the bottom of all together then when it falls through hopefully you will just need to lift it up and sweep the mess up, or just cut the bottom dish out on the bottle of the bottom leaving the sides on as the stand. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishman307 Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 (edited) You do not need to remove ashes from a woodburner (now and again only), Neither do you need a grill in bottom, All wood burners have no bottom air, Only air from above, This allows wood to be burnt at a slow rate, However multifuel needs grate to sit on ashes cleaned out, and air controll under fire, You would be better building a damper into chimney this would alllow it to be damped down and might burn overnight, But so far its looking good, I would prob go solid door with adjustable vent, Edited January 11, 2009 by fishman307 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Maybe cut the bottom out and use the slots in the band it sits on as air inlets. Also cut out a small section out of the same band and weld on a handle, so you can open it and rake out the ashes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusk2dawn Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 With a few mods it could possibly double as a smoker? Looks good to me. Rgds D2D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxer Posted January 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Thanks for some of these ideas will see what i can do. I dont want anything fancy, you can probably tell that already by the fact im using a gas bottle I think i will just bung on a flu and see how it goes when i burn stuff and go from there. Wish i new what fishman has said before i started, would of saved a little bit of time. oh well ive no experience with woodburners I wouldnt have clue about smoking meat in there, probably just end up cooking it rather than smoking it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radio1ham Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 well i made one of these a while ago for the father in laws green house next time im there il get a picture of it and yes they do put out a bit of heat aswell but always see them gas bottles lying on the sides of roads and country lanes etc so its a good way to recycle them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 if anyone wants a shortcut, I've an old style gas stove, looks exactly like a log burner but has the gas gubbins which are easy to remove, has flue pipe etc, with a little welding to seal holes would do the job well. Supplied by our local aga dealer so not cheap and flimsy. Is covered in rust but is taking up space so it'll be scrapped if no one wants it gratis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Good job, well done. I've seen this dome many times. There is however just one problem that you have overlooked. The cylinder looks to me like it belongs either to Shell, or rather Flogas who now own Shell cylinders, or its a BOC cylinder. Either way, I doubt that you have good title to the cylinder, and its not unknown for gas companies to take action to recover their costs. Loss of earnings, rental, replacement cost etc. There are also some significant dangers involved in cutting into LPG cylinders, and I should know! webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Stalker Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Good job, well done. I've seen this dome many times. There is however just one problem that you have overlooked. The cylinder looks to me like it belongs either to Shell, or rather Flogas who now own Shell cylinders, or its a BOC cylinder. Either way, I doubt that you have good title to the cylinder, and its not unknown for gas companies to take action to recover their costs. Loss of earnings, rental, replacement cost etc. There are also some significant dangers involved in cutting into LPG cylinders, and I should know! webber If thats the case Webber, are they responsible for all the gas cylinders littering our countryside, I don't see teams of Shell officials cleaning up our quiet country lanes. The way I see it were cleaning up the countryside & recycling....every body happy la la lalala lah You are right to point out the dangers tho, I always open up the valve to get rid of any remaining gas, then un srew the valve & fill with water from a hose pipe SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 If thats the case Webber, are they responsible for all the gas cylinders littering our countryside, I don't see teams of Shell officials cleaning up our quiet country lanes. The way I see it were cleaning up the countryside & recycling....every body happy la la lalala lah You are right to point out the dangers tho, I always open up the valve to get rid of any remaining gas, then un srew the valve & fill with water from a hose pipe SS You may not see them, but I can assure you that there are cylinder recovery officers active throughout the UK.. The majority of abandoned cylinders in the countryside are there thanks to the travelling community. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryhawk Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) I've seen lots of these in peoples camper vans. Even seen some with a water tank for washing/washing up. There's a company who make them also. Some on fleabay. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/-gas-bottle-wood-bur...0110119002r5761 You can even make little one out of a heineken keg. Found this on another forum. http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34143 Some on pootube as well. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0-K05Rcl9j0 Edited January 12, 2009 by harryhawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxer Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 There is a couple more floating about the yard so the calor lot can have those if they come looking I know somebody who once took in 3 or 4 old bottles he found after some 'travellers' left them behind in his field. All he got was a quick 'ta mate'. I also took the valve out of mine and purged it with some water before doing anything to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnGalway Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Shell aren't too popular in certain parts over here so good on ya Nice job on the burner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Its taking shape real well. The latch to unlock the door might do well to have a wooden **** cos the metal one will no doubt be blisteringly hot! I still think its a fab way of having a fire inside a workshop/garage etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 http://www.synergyassetservices.co.uk/ webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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