mark_mjs93 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 hi after reading foxers thread on him building a log burner out of an old gas bottle i decided that ill get my brother to help me out and me and him will build one ourselves (he's a mechanic and has the tools to make it, i have the necersary brain cellcount to actually design one , well my qeustion is i want to make one but i dont a big one like foxers so the 19kg gas bottle is sort of outta the question but i was sort of contemplating using a beer keg like the ones pubs use, if i could obtain one legally, say from a scrap yard or ill ask around you think that will make a decent burner, i dont mean like a small one like the heineken ones you can buy i mean a 30 - 40 litre ones you think these will be a decent size? and do you think it will work well...?1?!?! thanks for the help Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Before you go ahead, have a read here. http://www.kegwatch.co.uk/ webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staglioni Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 I revamped a pub before Christmas must have been 50 or 60 aliminium barrels in cellar and yard. I could not give them away scrap men wouldn't touch them stag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbald Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 I revamped a pub before Christmas must have been 50 or 60 aliminium barrels in cellar and yard.I could not give them away scrap men wouldn't touch them stag Scrap yards wont touch beer kegs, and I don,t think theyd work as the ally would not be able to withstand the heat. Gas bottles are available in all sorts of sizes try your local dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_mjs93 Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Scrap yards wont touch beer kegs, and I don,t think theyd work as the ally would not be able to withstand the heat. Gas bottles are available in all sorts of sizes try your local dealer. oh well, problem is speaking to a local dealer about a gas bottle would land me with a full one wouldnt it and im not gonna pay for a full gas bottle just to empty it im stingy me lol, other than a gas bottle what would you recomend to use? to be honest i would like to start looking this weekend if i can for the materials then i can start putting it together next week after school and such... thanks for the help Mark (P.S; why dont they wanna touch beer kegs then???) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 (P.S; why dont they wanna touch beer kegs then???) Click the website link above. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hinksford Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 oh well, problem is speaking to a local dealer about a gas bottle would land me with a full one wouldnt it and im not gonna pay for a full gas bottle just to empty it im stingy me lol, other than a gas bottle what would you recomend to use? to be honest i would like to start looking this weekend if i can for the materials then i can start putting it together next week after school and such... thanks for the help Mark (P.S; why dont they wanna touch beer kegs then???) Why not use a 13kg gas bottle?Try you local council tip they normally have loads they keep for recycle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staglioni Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 If you keep your eyes peeled there are loads of old gas bottles kicking about. check your local tip or car boot sale when every body leaves you will be suprised. May be even a camp site if there is one local stag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_mjs93 Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Before you go ahead, have a read here. http://www.kegwatch.co.uk/ webber like i said i was only THINKING of using a keg and only if i could legally obtain such a keg say hmmm BUYING one maybe... from someone who could legally sell me one, besides ive been told its not the greatest material to use so i may use a different thing such as an empty gas cylinfer (id have it totally decompressed then id flush it using water from the hose dont need any more head injuries lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Why not use a 13kg gas bottle?Try you local council tip they normally have loads they keep for recycle It' dangerous It's theft. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 It' dangerousIt's theft. Not if you flush it and don't get caught! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_mjs93 Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 lol the wonderful people at our local tip are always moaning lol then again they have had alot of trouble with people throwing live grenades and such into the containers then you have bomb squad down all day securing the area i mean what is wrong with some people... lol ill keep my eyes peeled and such i geuss ill find one kicking about some were or other lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_mjs93 Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Not if you flush it and don't get caught! smooth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_mjs93 Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 i might have a chat with my cousin his dad has a barn and he probably has a couple kicking about somewere....and if not im sure ill find some were i can get one.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Libs You joined PW after my accident in April, and obviously missed the posts which followed. I have worked in the LPG industry for 30 years. In April 08 I was damd near killed by a propane cylinder, doing an operation I had done correctly thousands of times previously with properly designed and constructed equipment. I know first hand that being in the middle of a propane explosion takes no prisoners, is far more destructive than you can ever imagine, and not everyone is as lucky as I was. I owe my life to my son, who one the fateful day had balls of steel, and pracised the training that he had received but thought that he would never need. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_mjs93 Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Libs You joined PW after my accident in April, and obviously missed the posts which followed. I have worked in the LPG industry for 30 years. In April 08 I was damd near killed by a propane cylinder, doing an operation I had done correctly thousands of times previously with properly designed and constructed equipment. I know first hand that being in the middle of a propane explosion takes no prisoners, is far more destructive than you can ever imagine, and not everyone is as lucky as I was. I owe my life to my son, who one the fateful day had balls of steel, and pracised the training that he had received but thought that he would never need. webber ok ill crack, what do you recomend i use??? you have rejected the idea of a beer keg and a gas cylinder so what do you recomend i use, i would prefer to use something like a gas cylinder or beer keg they have a good construction and are a good shape give me an idea along them lines. thanks mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 If you want a gas cylinder, get one legitimately, its is not worth trying to steal one, you will probably get caught. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Visit a scrap yard, have a look what steel tube you can find. You could visit a sheet metal worker and have a cylinder rolled up to the size that you want. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_mjs93 Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 If you want a gas cylinder, get one legitimately, its is not worth trying to steal one, you will probably get caught. sorry if you got the wrong end of the stick cranfield when i said id keep an eye out to see if i can find one i didnt mean just on the streets or at the tip i meant family friends and such lol sorry if you got the wrong end of the stick, im not planning on breaking the law... webber as much as that is a good idea the tubing you can find in a scrappy isnt the structure i was hoping to use, i was just thinking about maybe using a small oil drum (legally obtained obviously) i think if i could buy a small oil drum about the size of a beer keg (30 to 40 litres) i think that will be an adequate size, do you think this will be a better idea webber??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 A 25 Litre oil drum may do the job, but not for long as the steel will soon burn through. I'm sending you PM. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 I have read this thread with great chuckles in hand. Firstly listen to webber, Even an empty cylinder is pressurized and still as severe risk to the beholder who wishes to cut,burn or puncture it...... On a more serious note... I am known to practice the dark arts of the classic 'homer' due to my background. Source yourself some 12" schedule 10 pipe.A piece of mild steel plate min 3/8"(Even if you have to buy it it is fairly cheap) no need for rolling or forming in a mill. Cut your door, you will need a grate of some sort and so on and so on...... please note you will need a certain amount of fabrication skills to complete it successfully. I know If I made a log burner out of a gas cylinder mrs starlight would not let it in the front door....... Failing all this go to machine mart-They are selling potbelly stoves for less than 50 quid at the weekend!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 makes me chuckle all this talk of gas bottles being hot property, seem to be ditched all over the place round us so someone really ought to make the deposit scheme work, so it was in peoples interest to hand them back. I'd suggest if the owners gave a fiver for each one returned they'd never need to buy new stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klunk Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 If you're looking for a gas bottle wood burner, look no further. Clickety-click Smart little things these, though a trifle pricey though, perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Just goes to show what you can do with an old gas cylinder, thats a hefty price tag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 If you have cylinders lying around, have a read of this. http://www.synergyassetservices.co.uk/index.html webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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