al4x Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lin...ire/7846801.stm Now I know he had modified his landie badly and it shouldn't have been on the road but he was sober, obeying the speed limit and has killed half his family what point is there in jailing him for 2 years. He won't do it again there was no intent there and any old landy fanatic knows they can drive like dogs at the best of times and you never know what next is going to break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Does that make it OK then? You can drive whatever pile of **** you want at whatever speeds you like as long as you kill half your family when the enevatable happens and you crash? If that does happen then you don't have to pay for your crimes. All a bank robber has to do is push a relative down the stairs and kill them and then they will have paid enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 any old landy fanatic knows they can drive like dogs at the best of times and you never know what next is going to break. If that is the case and the car obviously being in a dangerous state, it does beg the question how the man even considered putting his family in it, never mind driving it at speeds that it obviously should not have been pushed too. It is one of those decisions that plays on your conscience, but really, I would never have put my girls in the car. Perhaps his spell inside will give him time to reflect on the poor decision he made in the first place. I don't envy the man, thats a cruel and lonely place he has found himself in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) I can see where you're coming from but with no malice invoved what will prison achieve. He'll already be pretty devastated by what he has done. Most of us do DIY on cars and must have driven some knowingly with faults just been lucky enough not to have an accident. You'd get less for going out with a knife and actually stabbing someone. The average landy on mud tyres wanders arround well and doesn't usually brake in a straight line so who is to say he knew it was dangerous Edited January 23, 2009 by al4x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peck Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 this is a direct quote from the bbc story "The vehicle was in appalling condition, its many and various defects were plain from the expert evidence given at trial." and you are saying that 2 years was too much, either you have no feelings or no brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulf Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 The guy will serve 12 months. lets not forget the emergency service workers who's lives he put at risk or the fact he could have killed those in the other vehicle. When you put things into context it almost seems lenient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattw Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I believe the landy had recently had an MOT though, so as far as he could have known it was Ok? The question is really the "experts" that noticed all these defects Were ALL of them vital to the safety of the vehicle or was a defect included as rust on the roof, doors rusty, internal lights dont work, etc. Thus there was only one serious defect and may others that most ladys have perfectly legally on the road? never let the truth get in the way of a good story! Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 exactly, if you take the average old landy on the road and have an expert look at it you'd pick up loads of stuff, half the chasis out there will have been welded or be falling apart and if it wasn't picked up at MOT time then how is the owner to know. My main point is he didn't set out to deliberately kill his kids he did it through a bit of foolhardyness and a bit of stupidity and will pay the price for it but banging him up is very severe considering some of the sentences out there, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) If it had recently been MOT'd, I am surprised the defence barrister didn't call the MOT tester as a defence witness, unless it would have made it worse. He could have got an MOT with a list of advisories, which he ignored. We don't have enough to fully judge, but I don't recall the defence disputing the state of the Landrover. He was also driving too fast. Edited January 23, 2009 by Gordon R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 So my MOT is a get out of jail free card for 364 days ?? Mrs. Matthews shouldn`t be jailed as she is unlikely to see her daughter without supervision for many a long year............. reality check aisle four please !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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