Paul_M Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Two of us are getting into pigeon shooting and are starting to build up our equipment. What would you recomend? We need a hide, poles and decoys. We allready have a magnet thats home made. Want to buy the proper gear first time around! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warlock Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Erm... I hope you have a swiss bank account or some off shore slush fund because you are going to find that the list of equipment that you will be advised to buy by the forum members is going to be huge. By the way every suggestion for equipment is going to be a good suggestion it`s just a case that each member has a preference on what works and what doesn`t. To start with, Bouncers Flappers Peckers Sillosock decoys UV Paint Crow Decoys Sillosock covers Decoy bag Seat (comfortable) Gloves (To cover white hands) Head cover (To cover white face) Cradles Gear Bag Decent camo clothing 12+ decoys That should get you started, i`m sure other people will post more, at the end of the day it is a case of what works one day in one place might not work the next day in the same place or even another place. Some guys do the same as me sometimes and go out with a gun some carts and a net, sit under a flightline shoot 10-15 pigeons get some twigs from a tree then use them as decoys. Whichever route you choose good luck and happy shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazkb Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 to get you started 6 pigeon shells, x army camo net and some hide poles is all you need you can build up as you go along but that will be ok to get you going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 Go to ukshootwarehouse. Get one of their carry bag & hide deals. You'll get a holdall, seat, camo net, poles for about £100 (discount for PW members) They sell decoys, so get about a dozen of those too. That should get you up and running nicely. When you shoot your first two birds, stick them straight on the magnet and freeze them when you get home so you can use them again. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 I was going to post this elsewhere but maybe this is as good a place as any... This one’s probably going to get me in a whole heap of trouble but it’s time some of you noobies on here got the message... BEFORE you do anything about going pigeon shooting THINK! Instead of spending all your hard earned on all that (mostly ****) kit spend some money with someone like Will B the site sponsor or any number of knowledgeable guides or even a knowledgeable mate and LEARN about pigeon decoying, the subject and the practical things AND what’s good to buy and what’s not. At least buy a book or watch a DVD on the subject. What am I on about...I get asked all the time by mates etc to come pigeon shooting ‘cause they’ve just bought all the gear but have no idea how to use it and want some help. OK in itself BUT they then turn up with all the brand new kit they’ve bought and much of it I’d put straight in the bin, shiny new plastic deeks, hide poles that only extend high enough to outreach a midget, nets that have more holes than Kenny Everetts stockings, rotary devices made from second hand motors with no angle adjustment, seats that are so low you’re in a better position when on the toilet, gimmicks and gadgets all of which are better designed to catch shooters rather than pigeons. Apologies to all those out there selling pigeon shooting kit but lets face it a lot of it’s rubbish and people should find out first what's good/bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_M Posted February 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 I was going to post this elsewhere but maybe this is as good a place as any... This one’s probably going to get me in a whole heap of trouble but it’s time some of you noobies on here got the message... BEFORE you do anything about going pigeon shooting THINK! Instead of spending all your hard earned on all that (mostly ****) kit spend some money with someone like Will B the site sponsor or any number of knowledgeable guides or even a knowledgeable mate and LEARN about pigeon decoying, the subject and the practical things AND what’s good to buy and what’s not. At least buy a book or watch a DVD on the subject. What am I on about...I get asked all the time by mates etc to come pigeon shooting ‘cause they’ve just bought all the gear but have no idea how to use it and want some help. OK in itself BUT they then turn up with all the brand new kit they’ve bought and much of it I’d put straight in the bin, shiny new plastic deeks, hide poles that only extend high enough to outreach a midget, nets that have more holes than Kenny Everetts stockings, rotary devices made from second hand motors with no angle adjustment, seats that are so low you’re in a better position when on the toilet, gimmicks and gadgets all of which are better designed to catch shooters rather than pigeons. Apologies to all those out there selling pigeon shooting kit but lets face it a lot of it’s rubbish and people should find out first what's good/bad. This is what i wanted to know, what proper gear to buy, i do have experience. Looking around and there is lots of gear out there, you could go mad! What good camo nets to people recomend? Do you really need £50 hide poles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warlock Posted February 24, 2009 Report Share Posted February 24, 2009 For hide poles goto Wilkinsons and get some washing line props for £3 each, they are painted green and height adjustable upto about 2.4 metres, standard camo netting, try and get one that is brown one side green the other side, that way gives you some flexibility with background if you get one with too many gaps fold it in half if it`s a big one like i have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazkb Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 i make most of my own stuff based on what is usfull rather than what looks good my equiptment works, it's tried and tested and it works thats all I know, but it's about putting it out in the right way for the conditions and in the right place i have deeked pigeons onto a plain grass field before, not easy and not many but i still got a few. experiance isn't somthing you can buy i'm afraid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warlock Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 I just bought a magnet, 4 hypaflaps and 3 floaters plus some other kit (about £230 in total). Some say i am mad but to be honest after borrowing other peoples kit during the week when they are working and trying it out in different combinations i have been impressed with the results, i find that sometimes it all works sometimes bits work but as a tool for the shooter i think personally having something there to bring out if the situation dictates it then i will be glad to have it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Highlander, take a breather mate!! I don't disagree with a lot of what you said but on the same token I'm sure you were new once and you wanted all the gear! Paulm, As a newbie you are going to want to buy it all, but only once you start using it all will you decide what's best for you. If you read the forum regularly you will see that there are different strokes for different folks; One person will swear by a gizmo whilst another says it's cr*p. My personal experience is after purchasing lots of bits when I first started, the weight of all the gear when you're lugging through muddy fields is so important. I have over time changed my gear to cut down on weight especially and also the size; If you have a 4x4 and can drive to a spot then this isn't an issue. My list of things to start with would be: - Camo clothes, gloves hat and face cover - 12 decoys - A decent net and poles - Something to sit on - Carry bag for all your gear This is the basis of your kit, which types and what makes is all down to your pocket depth. I bought the Stealth net from the UKSHOOTWAREHOUSE where you will also get discount as a forum member. It's light weight and compacts down really small. Having already tried a set of "Wilkinson washing line poles" I opted for a proper set of hide poles, again much lighter and with the kick plate will dig into the ground with ease. Decoys, I still use plastic shells which I have touched up with matt paint over time, but this is something I'd like to upgrade, probably silosocks. I also have bouncers which come out with me on every occasion whereas the magnet is not out every time. As far a seat is concerned, something comfortable is important, and they come in all different shapes and sizes; I personally have one of the bucket seats with spinning top, it's a good height and I can store things in there that I don't want getting wet. It also sits neatly in the bottom of a large carry bag I use for all my gear. Hope some of this helps, keep asking questions, this is what the site is for!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 cheap and cheerful If you have an Ex Army Naval surplus shop around where you live they sale cheap camo netting , can even get the desert storm camo fo sitting in the middle of a wheat field ...appox £25 Net poles from Wilkinsons £2 each x 4 , washing line probs fully adjustable just cut the round ends off and cut to a point to dig into the ground. You should be able to pick some half shell decoys up from the Auction site for a couple of pounds each .£12 to £15 Back down the army surplus shop for your clothes... £4 for a army jumper to keep you warm Waterproof camo leggins for about £10 and dont forget the hat for £4 £7 for a naval rucksack to carry all your gear in. and off you go...you can always but moe and better kit when you can afford it, I doubt if Grandad Pigeon shooter had much moe then this when he started shooting all those years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazkb Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 Having tried various nets i have stuck with my sweedish army net, not the lightest but it works as good as any other iv'e tried (and i have tried a few) i still use shell deeks as they seem to work as good as any others and are easier to carry, i have a new kit bag from a guy of ebay who will make them to your own design and they are very good and cheap as well, I agree with the magnet, some days they are briliant some days they are a waste of time I have started using lofters as well and the last couple of outings they have drawn birds into the trees i wear camo gear but i have found that movement is the key, keeping still when the pigeons approach will make more difference than any camo. everyone has their own way of doing things and what works for one person might not work for you, i am allways adapting and looking for ways to improve, my latest gadget is an old golf trolly manipulated to carry all my gear, everything fits on it and it makes light work of carrying all that stuff, i have even re-worked my magnet so it comes apart into a smaller package for easier carrying and to me that's what it comes down to, the amount of stuff you need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul_M Posted February 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Thanks for all the info lads. Been looking around, some of the gear is very expensive as is my local gun shop. But at the end of the day, it works out cheeper than clays! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 for hide poles go two wilkings.washing line poles for £4-99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhunter Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 DON'T buy things that need batteries....they cost and WEIGH too much(except the magnet, of course) I wouldn't leave the house without my Floaters/bouncers but I don't always use the magnet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toombsy Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Get a hide kit with at least four poles (Stealth netting is the dogs doo daas) and decoy bag. Then on top of that you ought to get a pack of ten flocked shell decoys (not plastic ones). Pack of three floater poles won't be a bad idea. Some secondhand binoculars. A knife. A decent cartridge bag that holds 100 or more. And that's it for the basics. You got to remember that you'll be carrying it all across some fairly rough ground, and if you have a good day you'll be bringing back even more weight in birds, so why bog yourself down with extra stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commanda Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 (edited) *Chair/ Any old thing that you can sit on will do the trick *Nice decent gun bag, to hold your weapon obviously. *Rucksack, < Thats what i take, but its totally up to you. *Some snacks *Bangers, to get them in the air. *Camo clothes. *Pellets and gun OBVIOUSLY *Knife *Good Luck, remember the law! Shoot targets first if your new to Air Gunning. And I prefer to shoot rats... Edited March 2, 2009 by commanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nats Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Some good ideas on here.........the real tree nets are very good light you can fit a 10x5 in your coat pocket... I would sooner use 4 dead pigeons from freezer than any amount of plastic thats what tends to work for me.. Happy shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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