sapper063 Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 i have a cz 22lr with an open fac what other rounds could i use in my cz instead of 22 subs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 HV's (hyper velocity), numerous brands - things like the remington Yellow jackets etc, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 CCI Stingers-Awesome!!!!Give em a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapper063 Posted February 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 hi nick whats difference and advantages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted February 25, 2009 Report Share Posted February 25, 2009 they're faster (but waaaay more noisy), they shoot flatter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogfox Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 yellow jackets are supposed to be crackers in some guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootingman Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 I feed my Sako Yellow Jackets - Awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 I really want to use CCI Quick Shok, but no one seems to sell them in England... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 I tried some CCI stingers and found I had several fliers. I understand it's due to them initially being supersonic as they leave the barrel but as they transition to sub sonic they became unstable. Most people will intend to use them to acheive a greater shooting distance but the above reason makes this a bad choice IMO. I'm no rocket scientist but there is a pressure wave in front of the bullet when supersonic. As the bullet slows that pressure wave will get closer to the point, equalise and eventually the point of the bullet overtakes any air deflection caused by its progress through atmosphere. At some part of this stage it's reasonable to assume the bullet can be de-stabilised and maybe even turned round. The subsonic bullet has air disturbance behind it all the way so as far as I know will be the more reliable bullet at longer ranges. I rather suspect the supersonics are best used for more clout and deformation at moderate range where they are still supersonic. at the point of impact. But then again I aint no Einstein either and am willing to listen to other theories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moses Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 CCi velocitors, my finnfire loves em! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem223 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I'm with Dave-G. The supersonic rounds I have used are noisy, expensive and rarely as accurate as subsonics. I only shoot subsonics now, no doubt something like Eley target are more accurate, but for general use the subsonics are hard to beat. If I wanted something with a bit more power I would get a 17hmr or a centrfire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Winchester Laser HV. An excellent bullet. Very fast and accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole Harbour Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I use remmy 22 subs in my CZ out to 70yds and find them pretty good , and not expensive either , for longer ranges I stick with my 17hmr . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Dave, I believe it's referred to as 'trans-sonic instability'. It's the reason why a lot of high-grade .22LR target ammunition is subsonic, to rule out this problem on the range. I don't bother with stingers. They offer little discernible advantage, and make a real din. You need to cater for different zero points if you are chopping between subs and stingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Thats the very word I was reaching for Mr Baldrick, thank you kind sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon master Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 The Winchester Lasers, I find as accurate as my Eley subs but yeah they make a good crack, with the mod on they are about the same as a eley sub without a mod... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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