Carbonrocket Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Hi, Its maybe been done before but has anyone got body diagrams showing heart/brain locations of normal vermin. And the preferable shots that would be taken head on and side on to cause instant dispatch? If you can PM me links I will colate them for the forum for the following - Squirrels, Wood pigeons, rabbits, crows and rats. I know where the rats and rabbits will go down first shot but would like to do a definative helpful guide to assist us all in ensuring that we can reduce undue suffering and become,,, more efficient and humane. Send me your diagrams please and I will get a decent guide to where the shots should be placed. Carbon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Perhaps im being stupid here but isnt the brain normally in the top lump that the eyes are bolted to-just a guess but im no vet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkite Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Perhaps im being stupid here but isnt the brain normally in the top lump that the eyes are bolted to-just a guess but im no vet. [/quote Don't be silly, in the male of the species it's at the end of that sausage thing between the hind legs.....don't you know anything??? Best redkite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbonrocket Posted April 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Oh Har Har Har! Come on all I know where the brain is but would like to do a decent 'strip' down of many vermin showing where the heart and brain is for newbies to help in avoiding wound shots. Help me out and throw the dog a bone! Carbon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 When u kill one. Cut the ****** open!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_mjs93 Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Oh Har Har Har! Come on all I know where the brain is but i would like to do a decent 'strip' down of many vermin showing where the heart and brain is for newbies to help in avoiding wound shots. Help me out and throw the dog a bone! Carbon PERVERT!!!.... :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 (edited) right im going to be serious here for a mo. i think this is a bloody good idea! i reckon we should have a pinned thread showing diagrams of all critical points for alot of quarry, not just for airguns - everything from squirrel and pigeon to bear and elk. i know i spent ages trying to look up diagrams on boar before going to latvia (lee helped me out then). and yes, i am a lazy b who cannot be ***** trawling the net for hours on end trying to find info Edited April 20, 2009 by Axe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 I will try and get some printoffs from work tomorow. Will most likely be able to get a deer clock and boar aswel as th Big 5 but the smaller stuff.. Im not too sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 I will try and get some printoffs from work tomorow. Will most likely be able to get a deer clock and boar aswel as th Big 5 but the smaller stuff.. Im not too sure. :blink: ill see if i can find the links lee sent me; na scratch that, ill go tell lee to find the links that he sent me and post them here see theres something wrong when i havnt started dicking about in a thread.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Mark Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 In the book "Total Airguns" by Pete Wadeson, im sure it has diagrams in there for vermin like Rabbits, Pigeons and rats, Unfortunately im at work at the moment but when i get home i will dig it out and have a look. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traztaz Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Funny post this , in my airgun hunting days all I/we used was head shots for airgun quarry...............so not sure if what I am about to post is relevant to airguns as i am not sure they impart enough energy to the target to make the shot effective as it is with centerfire weapons. Basically all mammles are built the same, and just behind the shoulder and roughly 50 % up/down the body is an area called the boiler room, this is basically a direct line through the hear and lungs. It can be reached from many angles , but knowlege of your quarry is essential in all but the broadside shot.Placing a centerfire round of the correct calliber in this area results in heart and lung soup..............................don't know this will be as effective with an air rifle as I have never tried it , just used to shoot everything in the bonce, and as far as that went it was allways behind eye and before ear as that is the rout to the brain. Anyone tried the boiler room with an air weapon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbonrocket Posted April 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Funny post this , in my airgun hunting days all I/we used was head shots for airgun quarry...............so not sure if what I am about to post is relevant to airguns as i am not sure they impart enough energy to the target to make the shot effective as it is with centerfire weapons. Basically all mammles are built the same, and just behind the shoulder and roughly 50 % up/down the body is an area called the boiler room, this is basically a direct line through the hear and lungs. It can be reached from many angles , but knowlege of your quarry is essential in all but the broadside shot.Placing a centerfire round of the correct calliber in this area results in heart and lung soup..............................don't know this will be as effective with an air rifle as I have never tried it , just used to shoot everything in the bonce, and as far as that went it was allways behind eye and before ear as that is the rout to the brain. Anyone tried the boiler room with an air weapon? Reading this I actually I had one today by mistake. I was at a new permission and parked up in a static caravan area populated by Eastern European farm workers so could not take a sight shot. I should have as.. My first shot put a bunny down straight away, second bunny I missed the third was down again. Looking at the bunnys. I was shooting low and left so was off on the head shot. The first and third bun were tail left so I hit them in the 'boiler area' the second was tail right so the pellet passed under its chin. I am glad as I had made this mistake, that I put two buns down and that I totally missed the second rabbit. I dont want to wound. Next session will be with paper to ensure that the hit point is the cross hairs. Thanks for your comments and send those links I will do a decent guide! Carbon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Not sure if this is what you are after but these targets will give you the idea: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShropshireJohn Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 This thread needs a bump to the top. Thanks for posting those Stuartp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbonrocket Posted April 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Thanks Startp good images, thanks Carbon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danro Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Great thread!! I too tend to only do head shots, but we have woodies on the floor on one shoot, which means the head is bobbing all over the place but the "boiler room" is quite static. If there were some diagrams of exactly where the organs are in relation to front\back and side views it would help with my pellet placement and make for a more humane kill. Cheers Danro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_R Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 I reckon the rabbit aim point is a little low to be honest. There is a good thread about this very topic in the hunting section of airgunforum.net which is a fairly low traffic airgun site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 Never let yourself rely on diagrams-one of my uncles studied African big cats for months before deciding to use the old method of shooting them between the eyes.When he eventually managed to afford to go on safari-we were amazed to hear that he had been mauled to death by two one-eyed tigers walking arm in arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airssassin Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 I have found with squirrels that a shot in the neck or back of the head produces clean kills. The diagram shows a shot between the eye and the ear - this is correct for a rabbit but in my experience not correct for a squirrel. Squirrels' brains seem to be further back in their heads towards their necks. How do I know this? I chop their noggins off to make them easier to skin for the pot. One thing is for sure - never shoot a squirrel in the body with an air rifle (Non FAC). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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