CZ550Kevlar Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 My RFD mentioned something today that i have never thought of, I have .17HMR expanding ammo on my ticket plus i have .17HMR, does anyone know if non expanding .17HMR exists?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 why use it?...it does exist, but why? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Bit pointless for a vermin round eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted May 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 I have my .17hmr listed for vermin and zeroing it`s also listed for target shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Just becuase you have target shooting listed, doesant mean you have to, use FMJ ammo, I have no doubt they will drop a rabbit, in the chest. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 At the club where i shoot i can't use a .17hmr. That is over the 25mtr range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullbore Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Just becuase you have target shooting listed, doesant mean you have to, use FMJ ammo, I have no doubt they will drop a rabbit, in the chest. Steve I think you will find you cannot shoot rabbits or other anuimals with FMJ but MUST use expanding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel100 Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Also, 'they' won't let you use expanding ammo for target shooting - very quick way to lose your certificate! (Zeroing only, not target shooting). Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 there used to be a CCI FMJ round when the HMR first came out. It made it until 2006/7 or so. I haven't seen them for sale anywhere for a while and CCI discontinued them as far as I knew. Thanks Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted May 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 I think you will find you cannot shoot rabbits or other anuimals with FMJ but MUST use expanding Also, 'they' won't let you use expanding ammo for target shooting - very quick way to lose your certificate! (Zeroing only, not target shooting). Andy there used to be a CCI FMJ round when the HMR first came out. It made it until 2006/7 or so. I haven't seen them for sale anywhere for a while and CCI discontinued them as far as I knew. Thanks Rick Now you can see why i`m trying to find .17hmr non-expanding as it would be nice to take my .308, .223 & .17hmr down the target range for variety but can`t due to not being able to track down a .17hmr FMJ round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 i think the nearest you'll get is the CCI fmj hollowpoints - they don't expand anything near the fibre tips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 I havent noticed a box that says, "tick for expanding ammo".......you get it when applying for vermin or ground game shooting but you can shoot targets with expanding Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted May 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 (edited) For anyone that is interested CCI produce a FMJ target round for .17hmr, £21.50 a hundred but i have to buy in 500 box quantity but that`s not terrible. Ordered mine today. Edited May 2, 2009 by CZ550Kevlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez325 Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 expensive in my opinion - CCi hollow point 20g are £11.00 a box here in Somerset- so NON expanding ammo is almost twice as much :look: Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realtreedave Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Also, 'they' won't let you use expanding ammo for target shooting - very quick way to lose your certificate! (Zeroing only, not target shooting). Andy i specificaly asked about this at my local range and was told that they were cleared for 17hmr,and most people there seem to be using ballistic tips,maybe were all painting our fmj,s to look like ballistics :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvolcan Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 (edited) For anyone that is interested CCI produce a FMJ target round for .17hmr, £21.50 a hundred but i have to buy in 500 box quantity but that`s not terrible. Ordered mine today. expensive in my opinion - CCi hollow point 20g are £11.00 a box here in Somerset- so NON expanding ammo is almost twice as much :( Les He said £21.50 per hundred One box for £11 only holds 50 rounds So they're the same price I bought some CCI FMJ 20gr recently for £10.50 per box, but use the Federal Premium Ballistic Tip for the same price Edited May 2, 2009 by elvolcan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniperfox36 Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 well this is what i have been told if your a hunter then you can buy expanding rounds and non expanding rounds but if your only a target shooter then you can only buy non expanding....... has any one else heard of this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel100 Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Sniperfox36 It's been the (crazy/insane/stupid) law for many years now. You can only buy the ammo which it says you can buy on your certificate. If you are a target shooter it won't mention expanding ammo, so you cannot buy it. If you are a game / vermin shooter you will normally ask for expanding ammo - your certificate will specifically state that you can purchase such ammo. If it doesn't, the RFD cannot sell it to you. The same applies to bullets used for reloading. Incidentally, it is one reason why expanding ammo or expanding bullets are so expensive. They are classed as s5 and have to be shipped under higher levels of security than non-expanding ammo. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEINVISIBLESCARECROW Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 I'm new to HMR, just got the variation & bought the rifle. Not set up yet due to weather. When I picked up the gun I bought some ammo, just asked for box of each to try them out. One of the box's was CCi FMJ solids. I have expanding for vermin & solids for zero & target use on my ticket, same as for the .22 After asking around & looking on the CCi website I've found CCi FMJ's are a solid version of CCi Gamepoints. Classed as non expanding but do deform ? Mind boggling selection of HMR ammo. Solid, expanding & shrapnel being the basic types. I'm limited to what I can get local but whenever I travel I'm going to check out the local stores to find a bit of variety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldfish Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 solid ammo was bought in so the target shooting /non-vermin control shooters could own an HMR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trex Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 (edited) Ah no matter I just realised you are buying rimfire not reloadable. Cheers. Christ - I just noticed it's the ISC!!!!!!!!! Hi M8 Edited May 4, 2009 by Trex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 So where in the legislation does it say that you can't use FMJ in the field?. Certificate conditions allow you to buy expanding ammunition and missiles for pest control/fox/deer/etc and you can only use them for that purpose. (I.e. if you use them they can only be used for that purpose and for zeroing. Not for target shooting) BUT I doesn't say that you can use only them (except for deer where it specifies that you should use ammunition designed to expand predictably). Fox and vermin have no such stipulations attached to them. BTW, I wouldn't shoot with anyone that uses FMJ in the field before the flamers start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 i just ried them in the feild on recomendation, but they dropoff rapidly at 140 and ro=icochet like a bitch...wont be buying any more....might as well use .22lr hv's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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