boom boom Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 hi can anybody help weve just got a new shoot and for the first year we are looking to put down some ex layers can anyone tell me where we can get some in scotland and what price cheers tam bb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 They will walk and you will be lucky to get 30% return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Ex layers are cheap,but they are cheap for a reason.......see above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 That's true, but sometime beggars can't be choosers. Better ex layers than nothing, and there's always the chance that you may get a hatch out of some. They go for about £2.20 or so here. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclemicky Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Excuse my ignorance but what type of bird is an ex layer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Excuse my ignorance but what type of bird is an ex layer Birds which were specifically used just to lay eggs for incubation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 One theory is that the birds left at the end of the season, and caught up for laying, are the low flyers that didn't get fired at during the season. But then, people always did have theories, Lenin and Marx and Gordon Brown for example. There always used to be a handy little piece in the ICI Shooters Year Book (Diary) by Archie Coates, about how to try to get the most out of ex-layers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 (edited) We used some one year and had poor results and have never used them since.They seem to wander all over and when they do fly it is not very well. Edited May 23, 2009 by Blackbart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boom boom Posted May 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 so nobody knows where to get them i know they wander and you dont get a good return but its only a small shoot and if we put some ex layers at least we know there might be some birds just to keep some interest for the dogs ,thanks for your replys lads but would still be greatful for any info where to pick up some cheers tam bb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclemicky Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 So are they pheasants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazbrit Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Ex-layers are advertised in this weeks shooting times, i think they where about £1.50 each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boom boom Posted May 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 cheers lads iv got last weeks st no mention of ex layers .but plenty game dealers numbers il give them a call ,thanks again cheers tam bb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobt Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 a few years ago on our local shoot we hot 110% of the ex layers we put down, however we did feed a lot that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 How can you shoot 110% of 100% ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 How can you shoot 110% of 100% ? By shooting 10% more birds than you released, due to wild birds or those wandering (or enticed) from neighbouring shoots perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 "on our local shoot we hot 110% of the ex layers we put down" 1, 110% Impossible !!!! 100% yes , but highly improbable. 2, The mysterious 10% + is obviously birds that were on the ground in the first place .(not ex layers ) 3, Unless they were tagged ,you would never know the % 4,Ex layers dont get a reputation for nothing ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandad Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 easy , you shoot 10% of them twice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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janner1 Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 (edited) We have used ex layers for the last eight years on our shoot don't believe the dribble that they are bad flyers they can be just as easily be high flyers that have been missed. All game breeders want good breeding stock their livelihoods depend on it As for them wandering we loose feed twice a week with layer pellet/corn mix on top of corn in feeders.If push for time in the winter days invest in a auto feeder.if your land as any cover crop make sure ther are plenty of feeders around he crop. We have as they are ex layers lower maintenance than poults but with regular feeding and worming a good return is possible. Edited June 9, 2009 by janner1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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