petek Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Having recently bought a 17 hmr, i purchased with it a 100 of both Hornady and remmington ballistic tip rounds. However when zeroing the gun i found that although i had an excellent grouping at 50 yards, when i pushed it out to 100 a slight breeze ended up sending each shot every which way. Has anyone else had this trouble, and what are the best rounds for a hmr?? cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Wind... It's a light bullet - and pretty much the biggest drawback to the 17HMR.. It's very simple to fix.... - Get a variation for something with a .22 in it's name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 (edited) balls, at 100 yards it'll give better accuracy than the .22lr even with wind I'd say unless they were evenly pushed in the direction of the wind then thats not your problem, what was your rest like etc Edited August 17, 2009 by al4x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 I agree, I don't seem to have any wind issues with mine. If I miss then it is usually me. It certainly has better accuracy @ 100 yards than a .22LR. I would suggest getting some decent sandbag rests and taking your time zeroing. If the shots are "every which way" then it ain't the wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 balls, at 100 yards it'll give better accuracy than the .22lr even with wind I'd say unless they were evenly pushed in the direction of the wind then thats not your problem, what was your rest like etc Have to agree with this. I had a similar problem with zeroing my .22lr in windy conditions. The wind was constant and strong in a right to left direction which left me with a good group spot on "the bull". However, when I checked in a more sheltered location they were still in a tight group but a little off centre (To the right by about 3/4 of an inch. I have now re-zeroed the rifle in windles conditions. The point is that the group was tight so there was no accuracy problem. If your group is tight but "off centre" then you can blame the wind factor but if the group is "sprayed about" then you should look at the accuracy of your rifle/ammunition or the way that you are holding/resting the rifle. One option is to set your rifle up in a "Work Mate" type vice and check the grouping, that will at least tell you if there is an issue with the rifle or ammunition! Hope this makes sence and helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 How can you "ZERO" in windy conditions? Unless the wind is directly up or down the range and then it will only affect the elevation, it cannot be done. You need to know where your rifle shoots at zero. not where it shoots in a 10 mph wind. If you do not know that you rifle is zeroed in a no wind situation then you cannot allow for wind while out in the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog546 Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 I agree with the comment of not trying to zero a gun in a crosswind as you want to get the truest conditions possible with no additional influences!!!! The other side of the coin is everyone continually belittling the .22 round as in accurate,restricted,why in this case has it remained the favourite of most people for rabbit control. The .17 was a fresh varmint round over 20 years ago in the states and as is usual recently arrived here with everyone shouting its usefulness. IMO it takes away the art of shooting as with such a flat shooting round and all these first time shooters they do not get to learn about windage and hold over which are the essentials of good riflemanship,its noisey and expensive and dependant on where your bunny is shot destroys the meat. I have had my BRNO .22 for 20 years now and have no need or desire to change to something that will burn the barrel out and is too noisey to use on quiet nights out. There also seems to be a few people out there taking Foxes with this miniscule round at stupid ranges where the likelyhood of injuring a foxes seems greater than a clean kill,and creating another problem fox in their area which has been educated. If you are indoubt as to shot placement you should not venture out to take a chance on wounding,after all if you are at one with your weapon of choice the answer should already be in your head should you have a miss,you owe it to yourself and the reputation of the shooting community to be certain when you pull the trigger that you are going to place your round where its intended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobyb525 Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Try using the heavier .17 rounds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Try using the heavier .17 rounds? No don't they bounce better than the 22 RF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Wind... It's a light bullet - and pretty much the biggest drawback to the 17HMR.. It's very simple to fix.... - Get a variation for something with a .22 in it's name I believe Gary was meaning a .22 with a CF in it`s pedigree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Yeah get a .22 Hornet! It's like a HMR on steroids! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Indeed HD... Once my FEO returns from his umpteenth holiday / cruise this year - I should have the 22 hornet variation I've been after! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorwullie Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Agree with Al4x. Think you need to look at something else. Bullet is easily deflected but under most conditions well usable out to and over 100M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 (edited) we're going massively off topic here the OP wanted to know if his grouping was to be expected in wind and the simple answer is no its not. Something else is up with the set up as like MC I have no trouble shooting surprisingly good groups in wind at 100 yards. Go much over it and yes you'll struggle but its not exactly hard to limit your shots. Ok yes go centrefire and you'll have less problem but it is like using a sledge hammer to crack a nut Edited August 26, 2009 by al4x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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