Oly Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Just wondering...like many of your out there when you need spares for your motors often the scrappy gets the first call and then off you go climbing over cars stacked three high pulling odds and ends off all and sundry! I have a question though...what is acceptable scrapyard behaviour. I must admit it's a little time since I last went, but my question is...is it acceptable to break an item in order to get the required element and pay the reasonable amount...i..e. not for all of it? Basically I want to get part of the mechanism for a rear seat, but I don't want the whole seat...and I'm fairly sure I will get hammered for a lot more money if I walk out with the whole seat rather than just part of the mechanism. But in order to get just the part of the mechanism I would need to cut the seat frame...acceptable or not? The scrapyard I go to is huge and they just check the items on your way out...but they would see that it had been cut off something...but I'm not sure if they would know what it is or what it's off (as has happened before - they simply didn't know what the item was so charged me a nominal figure ~£5). What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 I suppose it depends how much you want to go back there again. Cut it off and if they don't like it, be prepared to walk away and not go back. You could ask first, they can only say no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted October 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 I suppose it depends how much you want to go back there again. Cut it off and if they don't like it, be prepared to walk away and not go back. You could ask first, they can only say no. I like your thinking. I do want to go back there, but the infrequency is such that they probably wouldn't know. With regard to asking them first however...then I would just end up paying for the whole seat anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 depending on the scrap yard I think its acceptable to take whatever efforts to get the part you need are required. I can remember hammering away at dash boards in the past to get parts. If they were that worried then they would take the parts off for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Depends on the yard. I go quite regularly, and the one i go to doesnt mind a bit of destruction to get a part, but not smashing things up for the sake of it. Another yard which i dont use wont allow parts to be removed from a larger item, and will charge for the whole thing. Its the nature of scrapyards that things are damaged and you might need to recover one bit of an otherwise damaged item. The part you want from the seat might come from a damaged or rain soaked part. The owner, i suspect, will not be interested, or will be unaware of the state of the seat. Go into the office and ask, or see if there is a published policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted October 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 I can't remember if certain tools are not allowed in...i.e. bolt croppers (would be good for cutting the seat - less noisy/heavy than a petrol angle-grinder!). Anyone come across this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 They have come on a lot since I spent most of my spare time at them, as the others have said I would ask before you get your head kicked in/have an alsation set on you I rebuilt many cars in my youth and lost more tools in scrapyards than anywhere else, the sickening sound of your most used socket dropping down into a pile of stacked cars is something I will never forget :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auto culto Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 if its me its by any means nessesary to get the part off in one piece quickly. Make sure you take a big toobox so you can fill the bottom with other stuff at the same time that might come in handy ( make sure your box is is filthy greasey etc so they wont check ). If the parts are to big just covertly throw them over the fence then collect when outside and tell them it wasnt quite the right part Just a quick question though, if you have to destroy the seat to get what you want, how will you get it off your vehicle :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSA Shaun Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 if its me its by any means nessesary to get the part off in one piece quickly. Make sure you take a big toobox so you can fill the bottom with other stuff at the same time that might come in handy ( make sure your box is is filthy greasey etc so they wont check ). If the parts are to big just covertly throw them over the fence then collect when outside and tell them it wasnt quite the right part Just a quick question though, if you have to destroy the seat to get what you want, how will you get it off your vehicle :blink: Or back on! Thought it was an unwritten rule at scrappy's that parts that fit in pockets don't have to be paid for as you are paying for a larger part? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broken man Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 I don't see a problem..... unless the guy who works there is the size of Hulk Hogan and cauliflower ears, a nose thats done 30,000 rounds.... and the hands the size of shovels.....as usually work there..........then ask very nicely....hoho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted October 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 if its me its by any means nessesary to get the part off in one piece quickly. Make sure you take a big toobox so you can fill the bottom with other stuff at the same time that might come in handy ( make sure your box is is filthy greasey etc so they wont check ). If the parts are to big just covertly throw them over the fence then collect when outside and tell them it wasnt quite the right part Just a quick question though, if you have to destroy the seat to get what you want, how will you get it off your vehicle :blink: Or back on! Thought it was an unwritten rule at scrappy's that parts that fit in pockets don't have to be paid for as you are paying for a larger part? It's really difficult to describe, but I'm just thinking about changing cars, and the one I'm thinking about has removable seats...but the seats are split 60:40 so that you can potentially leave one seat in place (which I want to do), but it needs the clips on the other large section of seat to stay clipped in place...and to provide a seatbelt point...hence I need that bit for when the larger section of seat is removed. Probably as clear as mud!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggone Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Just wondering...like many of your out there when you need spares for your motors often the scrappy gets the first call and then off you go climbing over cars stacked three high pulling odds and ends off all and sundry! I have a question though...what is acceptable scrapyard behaviour. I must admit it's a little time since I last went, but my question is...is it acceptable to break an item in order to get the required element and pay the reasonable amount...i..e. not for all of it? Basically I want to get part of the mechanism for a rear seat, but I don't want the whole seat...and I'm fairly sure I will get hammered for a lot more money if I walk out with the whole seat rather than just part of the mechanism. But in order to get just the part of the mechanism I would need to cut the seat frame...acceptable or not? The scrapyard I go to is huge and they just check the items on your way out...but they would see that it had been cut off something...but I'm not sure if they would know what it is or what it's off (as has happened before - they simply didn't know what the item was so charged me a nominal figure ~£5). What do you think? Last time I was there a complete seat was £3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldh Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 if its me its by any means nessesary to get the part off in one piece quickly. Make sure you take a big toobox so you can fill the bottom with other stuff at the same time that might come in handy ( make sure your box is is filthy greasey etc so they wont check ). If the parts are to big just covertly throw them over the fence then collect when outside and tell them it wasnt quite the right part Just a quick question though, if you have to destroy the seat to get what you want, how will you get it off your vehicle Or back on! Thought it was an unwritten rule at scrappy's that parts that fit in pockets don't have to be paid for as you are paying for a larger part? It's really difficult to describe, but I'm just thinking about changing cars, and the one I'm thinking about has removable seats...but the seats are split 60:40 so that you can potentially leave one seat in place (which I want to do), but it needs the clips on the other large section of seat to stay clipped in place...and to provide a seatbelt point...hence I need that bit for when the larger section of seat is removed. Probably as clear as mud!! problem here will be that a seat is one thing a scrape yard will make good money on so destroying an otherwise good seat might upset them, trick would be to go in there and ask if they can get the require part off for you, that way if the seat gets damaged then its down to them and you wont have to run the risk of paying out on something thatll be useless to you ie the whole seat, you may pay a bit more for the part to have it removed for you but thats better in the long run lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 I have spent more time than I care to remember in yards in the past but having visited a big commercial one recently I was shocked to find the change. ALL parts were removed before Joe Public had a chance to get near them This takes away any yard etiquette question as the parts were brought to me, complete, and very expensive LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted October 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 I have spent more time than I care to remember in yards in the past but having visited a big commercial one recently I was shocked to find the change. ALL parts were removed before Joe Public had a chance to get near them This takes away any yard etiquette question as the parts were brought to me, complete, and very expensive LB I've seen similar...and this yard now takes all the good bits off first, then allows you to pick off the rest if you wish. The good bits though only tend to be alternators, starter motors, whole engines etc...so my seat should be safe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 I wonder how they stand with regards to Health and Safety? from my memories it was fairly hairy stuff (even though it was good fun) climbing up 3 or 4 cars high to get that bit no one else had the guts to go for I did a ground up rebuild on an MG Midget, starting with just the bodyshell, so I used to go to Richardsons in Staines almost every Saturday morning for about a year or more - I am so glad I got all that out of my system then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Just wondering...like many of your out there when you need spares for your motors often the scrappy gets the first call and then off you go climbing over cars stacked three high pulling odds and ends off all and sundry! I have a question though...what is acceptable scrapyard behaviour. I must admit it's a little time since I last went, but my question is...is it acceptable to break an item in order to get the required element and pay the reasonable amount...i..e. not for all of it? Basically I want to get part of the mechanism for a rear seat, but I don't want the whole seat...and I'm fairly sure I will get hammered for a lot more money if I walk out with the whole seat rather than just part of the mechanism. But in order to get just the part of the mechanism I would need to cut the seat frame...acceptable or not? The scrapyard I go to is huge and they just check the items on your way out...but they would see that it had been cut off something...but I'm not sure if they would know what it is or what it's off (as has happened before - they simply didn't know what the item was so charged me a nominal figure ~£5). What do you think? I think you already know the answer which is why you're asking the question...it's theft and that's all there is to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted October 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 I think you already know the answer which is why you're asking the question...it's theft and that's all there is to it! Theft?? I want to pay for what I need, nothing more nothing less. Same reason I buy loose apples without a plastic bag from the grocer, I want the apples but not the bag (and adds to doing my 'bit' for the environment ). I'm not talking about throwing it over a fence or putting under my jacket as per the above have suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codling99 Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 theft be ******... they ususally charge(rip off ) people to collect these so called scrap cars,then charge public to strip them their selves and charge you for what you want off,then sell the left over scrap metal ?? theft... my opinion,get what you can for as cheap as you can,and try and knock them down on price as well.dont worry bout wrecking old seats,they no good anyways,theyd be wet and stained with oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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