jojusa Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Out with my friend yesterday and the Escort he uses (the one I'm I was going to buy when my SGC comes through!) decided to try and blow the end of the barrel off resulting in deformed barrel, choke and choke threads destroyed. No blockages, choke was tight and only around 150 carts through it, so at a loss as to why this happened. (It is going back to gunshop for return to Edgar Bros for their examination). (Mobile phone pics, sorry for quality.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 There's been a thread on the BBS about an almost identical incident (which looked like gas had got between the choke tube and the barrel wall). I'd like to get in with a 'pay peanuts, get monkeys' analogy before Mungler reads this. I'd rather use a Lanber than an Escort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojusa Posted April 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 (edited) There's been a thread on the BBS about an almost identical incident (which looked like gas had got between the choke tube and the barrel wall). I'd like to get in with a 'pay peanuts, get monkeys' analogy before Mungler reads this. I'd rather use a Lanber than an Escort. Thanks Baldrick, I'll have a look for that (or do you have a link, please). Edited April 26, 2009 by jojusa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shottyscotty Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 i own a escort and had it since xmass and i find this very worrying as i use it a lot and found the choke keaps coming undone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 i own a escort and had it since xmass and i find this very worrying as i use it a lot and found the choke keaps coming undone I always check the choke on my escort. Well you certainly get what you paid for but you also get a 3 year warranty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 the chokes on the one i had used two come lose,i had a wad stuck in the barrel but it was ok once i got it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tungsten Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Not a choke problem! But I recently purchased a Hastan Escort 3 1/2in magnum. Been using it on pigeon, No.6's 32g - no problem (Yet!!!!); but tried it with 28g clay cartridges and jammed every time, maybe down to lower pressure developed by the lighter load.? Will need to keep an eye on the chokes a bit worrying!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Not a choke problem! But I recently purchased a Hastan Escort 3 1/2in magnum. Been using it on pigeon, No.6's 32g - no problem (Yet!!!!); but tried it with 28g clay cartridges and jammed every time, maybe down to lower pressure developed by the lighter load.?Will need to keep an eye on the chokes a bit worrying!!! The problem with the 3 1/2" Escort not cycling 28g carts is a well known one, my RFD warned me of this when choosing between the 3" & 3 1/2" guns, it`s just a case of not enough pressure to cycle it due to stronger setup on the 3 1/2" version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojusa Posted April 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Been using it on pigeon, No.6's 32g - no problem (Yet!!!!) This gun in question has only shot Eley HB pigeon 6 1/2 32g fibre Eley Realtree® pigeon 6 1/2 30g fibre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinxy72 Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Not a choke problem! But I recently purchased a Hastan Escort 3 1/2in magnum. Been using it on pigeon, No.6's 32g - no problem (Yet!!!!); but tried it with 28g clay cartridges and jammed every time, maybe down to lower pressure developed by the lighter load.?Will need to keep an eye on the chokes a bit worrying!!! the 3.5" dont like the lighter loads as already mentioned and the 3" version would be the better option but u can buy a new spring for the 3.5" version which will cycle the lighter loads ... cost about £10 u just keep both springs and swap them when needed john forsey has them if u cant find them B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autolover Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 i bought a 3inch escort tried 24g cartridges for clays.i should have known they wouldnt cycle.i used to have a berretta 391 and that would cycle anything. took the escort back and rfd took it back and i got myself a berretta 303 sporter had a few non ejects with 24 but liveable with.just got back into my shooting should have kept my 391.also had a remi 1187 sporting clays with 26inch barrel that was great for skeet another gun i should have kept. i also ride bikes and i think the escorts are like chinese copy bikes ie not very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tungsten Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 the 3.5" dont like the lighter loads as already mentioned and the 3" version would be the better option but u can buy a new spring for the 3.5" version which will cycle the lighter loads ... cost about £10 u just keep both springs and swap them when needed john forsey has them if u cant find them B) I assumed it was down to pressures developed by differnt cartridges; I only used it on clays for a bit of a practice otherwise I only use it for Pigeon Decoying with 32g No6 and I haven't had a problem. If I do feel the need to break a few clays I have a Lanber o/u and Beratta o/u m/c I usually use. Will keep the Hastan purley for the heavier loads, but knowing about the alternative spring is good. Have you got a Hastan? Can't get my head around the manual instructions about lining up the cocking handle with marks to remove it? any ideas. :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 IIRC the last case was someone using a mobil choke in their Hatsan. Can anyone else back me up or am I imagining things again? ZB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Tungsten, If you remove the barrel and let the action slide forwards then put your thumb on the bit with the firing pin and move it back slightly whilst pulling on the cocking handle it will pull out. Regards, Gixer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 IIRC the last case was someone using a mobil choke in their Hatsan. Can anyone else back me up or am I imagining things again? ZB Yeah i remember that. I think the choke appeared to fit but after firing they ended up with a massive bulge in the barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojusa Posted April 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 IIRC the last case was someone using a mobil choke in their Hatsan. Can anyone else back me up or am I imagining things again? ZB Yes, I believe you are correct on this but the chokes in this Escort are the ones supplied with the gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tungsten Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Tungsten, If you remove the barrel and let the action slide forwards then put your thumb on the bit with the firing pin and move it back slightly whilst pulling on the cocking handle it will pull out. Regards, Gixer1 Thanks for the info, but when you read the manual " with your fingers compress the bolt to align the two notches (??) on the bolt where the cocking handle is attached" then pull out the cocking handle. The next bit is also very confusing:- "The bolt cocking handle is secret coded to prevent the risk of it falling out"?? Need to sort this as, as per previous reply, I may need to change the spring so I can use lighter clay loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Its got to be gas getting behind the choke to blast the choke to pieces like that . If there had been an obstruction in the barrel it would have burst or made one hell of a bulge . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojusa Posted May 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Its got to be gas getting behind the choke to blast the choke to pieces like that . If there had been an obstruction in the barrel it would have burst or made one hell of a bulge .Harnser . Harnser, the shop assistant said exactly the same as you when we dropped the gun in this morning. It will have to be sent away to Edgar Bros for their inspection. Here is a couple more pics showing the damage to choke and bulge in barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojusa Posted May 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 UPDATE This gun has been returned from Edgar Bros with a new barrel, possible defect with the chokes (or loose choke) which let the gas past and deform the barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Thought as much . Now is the time to trade up to a berreta urika 2 Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojusa Posted May 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Thought as much . Now is the time to trade up to a berreta urika 2 Harnser . Couldn't really afford a Berreta but it was traded in against an O/U baikal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2sledge Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Not a choke problem! But I recently purchased a Hastan Escort 3 1/2in magnum. Been using it on pigeon, No.6's 32g - no problem (Yet!!!!); but tried it with 28g clay cartridges and jammed every time, maybe down to lower pressure developed by the lighter load.?Will need to keep an eye on the chokes a bit worrying!!! I have just bought a three and a half inch magnum from mcavoys in standish,asked Tim, the owner,to find out what it will cycle to and he looked it up in Hadsans literatue etc,and they reckeon it should cycle 24 grams, I took it out today shooting clays using 28gram...not a problem at all, an excellent gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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