Tedward

Nil carbonundrum illegitimi ! - or some such. You’ll be missed Al.

Found the RSPCA’s stance : “Pre-stunning ensures that an animal is unconscious and cannot feel pain before slaughter up until the point of death. Animals that haven't been pre-stunned: Feel pain during the neck cutting process and up until they lose consciousness (through loss of blood) Experience a delay in loss of consciousness (e.g. up to two minutes in cattle) Are subjected to unnecessary pain, suffering and distress. Current UK law requires all livestock to be stunned before slaughter, so they don't feel pain at the time of killing. However, there is an exemption from this requirement that permits non-stun slaughter for religious purposes - to meet the demand of Muslim and Jewish communities. We believe that all animals should be stunned before slaughter. Evidence shows that slaughter without pre-stunning can cause unneeded suffering. We oppose the slaughter of any animal without first ensuring it's unable to feel pain and distress. We're pressing for law changes to improve animal welfare at slaughter. Until this happens, we propose: UK Jewish and Muslim communities review their slaughter practices Meat produced from animals not stunned before slaughter should be clearly labelled to allow consumer choice.”

Intriguing lady, could she be described as a savant ?

Hi OM, probably me being overly simplistic, my view is that in law something is either right or wrong - hence the reason for that law. If “humane” in this instance requires initial stunning of the animal, then that’s it in black and white. Anything else by default is “inhumane” and illegal. Perhaps I’m just not into political and religious nuances, and that’s why I’m confused ? cheers, Tedward.

“Religious requirements, sadly accepted here.” so religion trumps animal welfare, surely it’s either humane or inhumane ? confused.Tedward.

Where’s do the RSPCA sit regarding halal and kosher slaughter ? Tedward.

There’s always the “off” button. 🤔

“Rural Rites” by Charlie Pyle-Smith ordered.

I feel a “google” coming on !

As above, and not trying to muddy the waters, is not angling the least humane ? especially from the worms point of view. Don’t get me going on catch and release - inflicting pain and distress with no end result ie dinner.

Many thanks 11-87, Ideal ! cheers, Tedward.

Cheers CD, - that’s Christmas sorted said Scrooge 👍

Payment made Gary atb, Tedward.

Hi Classicdoubles, I’ll take a punt on this please, could you let me have your preferred payment method ? cheers, Tedward.

Many thanks matey peeps, I’ll give it a go this evening, cheers, Tedward.