joecash

unfortunately there are plenty of del boys in the gun game, its like garages charging £200 for servicing a new car - all that involves is basically £20 worth of oil and an oil filter plus a so called "inspection". rip off britain! There are some decent gunsmiths about.

If those marks don't polish out easily the "metal" will be from a duff pour. It appears from the pic that the marks appear to be on the barrel side of the action and not the receiver. Any gunsmith worth his salt should recognise duff metal on a 4 month old gun straight away.

have you spoken to who you purchased it from? under warranty is it not?

Remember the warranty only applies to the first user - like marmite, you will love it or hate it - i had 2 warranty claims on mine - only 15,000 shells through it

the most important thing for a woman is gun fit. Gun fit for a woman is very important as in general apart from the obvious female attribute of breasts, their necks are longer and their physical strength is less than the male. If your young lady has a longer neck then a monte carlo stocked gun may well be best. Length of pull is important and a gun with and adjustable comb and adjustable stock with recoil pad would also help and save you some cash in the long run - even if you have to pay a little more up front. If you aren't sure of what her needs are, get assistance from someone who really knows how to gunfit a woman, even if you have to shell out a few quid - try not to be penny wise and pound foolish on this issue

I've just sold a hatstand and i think you will find any warranty "dies" when it is sold as the warranty only applies to the first purchaser - unless things have changed

if your gun fit is bang on and you are sighting correctly, then either you aren't keeping the gun still or the gun is not pointing where you think it should. ask welsh warrior he beat me to it whilst i was making a brew

Beretta claim the cheapest maintenance costs apply to their shotguns. Anyone able to give an indication of their routine maintenance costs by their gunsmith, such as hinge pins, springs, firing pins and the like for Brownings and Mirokus?

when i was a lad the seller paid a 10% commission to the auction house and that was it. Nowadays as peeps have said the auction houses, take a large cut, from both the buyer and the seller, ending up with a very nice slice thank you very much. Then there are the hangers on squeezing a slice from internet bidders, Conflicts of interest and rip offs? who knows

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without spending too much you could purchase a leather stock slip on that should give an inch on lop. if thats not enough or the butt is irregular in shape try adding extra 2 or 3 mil layers by cutting up an old mouse pad until the lop and hopefully the sighting is correct. then you can decide the way forward

look on the cpsa web site and download the clay pigeon shooters handbook, i think its called the section on gunfit page 47 onwards (i think) is what you need. Still unsure take a lesson with a shotgun instructor trained in stance and gun fit. money well spent imho - cost from £25 to £40 is the going rate, anymore, you are buying someone a rolls royce. welsh warrior, on here, does it i believe

as long as the action remains tight I would leave well alone, as another poster has said, if its a low value gun and the action is on the verge of going loose may be better to sell it rather than throwing good money at it - especially if you use the services of a gunsmith who "knows how to charge."

No problem at all, everyone is entitled to their opinion. its just that if you understand how important gun fit is and stick to the principles in the buying process you will end up with, as you say, a gun that you want at the price you want to pay and a far better shooting experience, without getting huge bills for remedial actions, especially if you are all thumbs, like me, when it comes to diy.

Gun fit is the most important aspect in buying a shotgun. It's not rocket science either, so no need to pay silly prices for oighty toity "experts" In my humble opinion I would suggest a lesson with a Clay Pigeon Shooting Association Instructor trained in "gun fit" who can communicate effectively as a minimum BEFORE buying. He or She will tell you exactly what is involved. Taking that lesson could, and in all probability will, save you a fortune and should only cost £40 or so. someone like welsh warrior sounds ideal if you are in his area. Failing that contact CPSA. by the way I have no financial interest in replying to this post

I think there's a lot of "stir the pot, stand back and watch them go" devilment going on here. However if the only problems that have surfaced, due to a bit of mischief making, are 20 year old firing pin and spring related, then even "biassed" miroku owners have no worries.

Sorry to hear that, what were the probs? most unusual for Mirokus to have flaws be interested to know what they were

I have mk38 sporter multichoked - lovely gun. Looking for another. My preference would be for either a used near mint mk38 sporter or the MK70 with multi chokes fitted with a decent fully adjustable recoil pad and an adjustable comb thrown in. Grade 6 or Grade 6 the limited edition! they can be superb value if you wait and buy right.

When buying and selling cars - glass's guide is the bible Do we have a similar guide in the UK for shotguns? or is it suck it and see with seaweed or a wet finger in the air. The reason I ask is that many guns, offered for sale, do not seem to follow any sensible condition guide. Perhaps some people have developed their own methods or used USA methods Any suggestions would be most welcome Thanks.

x3 bit late but nevilles at alfreton are excellent, very knowledgeable, no pressure either, see their web site, literally hundreds of guns to choose from, have their own shooting ground just up the road at tansley where you can try second hand guns before you buy, top gunsmith too - people go to nevilles from all over the country - I would phone up and have a chat to make arrangements before hand. I'm not connected in any way, just get good service time after time.

just put it on the watch list to see if peeps are really that stupid

its not the cost of the gun that is the main cost of shooting over a year A 100 clays a weekend will cost circa 2 grand Archery is quite demanding and relatively cheap - but no bang!

the most important thing is to try a multitude of guns "for fit in the company of someone who knows guns" - i would never ever buy a gun "unseen" no matter how "reputable" the seller. If you don't follow this simple tip on your own head be it. If the gun shop quibbles walk away. look on the cpsa website and read this https://www.cpsa.co.uk/userfiles/file/CTSH.pdf from page 47 onwards Even a single lesson from a proper cpsa coach is, imho, worth the money - as in all walks of life some charge reasonably - others charge too much. Its like a shotgun - some are £100, some are £100 grand - but at the end of the day they all go bang and as long as it "fits" you will get good scores with either.

forend appears to indicate the "trap" type also the sporter normally comes with 5 teague chokes - 2 flush 3 extended

I hope the OP has tried the gun for "fit" before buying - all guns are different, including new ones