Glenshooter

Er no, but I'll give you a clue to my differentiation - GDP in $bn / pop in millions is - One group 67, 37, 58 and the other group - 0.8, 9.0, 1.5, 0.9, 0.6, 2.9, 1.3 Guess which is which? Colour had nothing to do with it. At least not to me.

Agree. Excellent post and thanks for that. I may well vote UKIP myself - as I agree with most of that. Just wish other UKIP supporters were so rational. And, I'm in a totally safe tory seat of >20,000 majority so no chance of me helping to let in labour/SNP .

Agree with you on much of that re EU. Just surprised that UKIP believe we 'should be doing trade and migration' with the Commonwealth, which of course, in addition to countries like Australia, New Zealand and Canada, other countries like Bangladesh, Botswana, India, Kenya, Mozambique, Nigeria, Pakistan etc. I thought that UKIP didn't want more immigration from Pakistan and India? Which I believe the coalition have also reduced. You've given a very different view of UKIP policy than I was led to believe from the UKIP guys around here.

I thought a criticism from many UKIP supporters of the current coalition was that it didn't reduce immigration from non-EU countries??

Phil Coley did an interesting factory visit to Guerini on his Clay Shooting TV series, hope this links.

So you've now figured out who the background people in 'your' beloved party are. Did you not just write this a minute or two ago ?

Having Neil Hamilton as Deputy Chairman of the party isn't a great sign.

That's exactly what was about to happen to me. I felt uncomfortable with what she was doing and getting glib answers re transferring funds which would have given her £12k with no obvious advantage to me. That's why I asked if there were any IFAs on here, (logic being the shooters are more trustworthy than non shooters on average (!!!) and certainly more interesting), and had a email discussion with Bentos followed by a meeting with him. He is everything that that other IFAs that I've met and worked with have not been. Straight speaking but friendly, open and transparent with absolutely no pressure.

I should have said that the guy I was speaking about 2 post up, is indeed this guy! Bentos, top man. And does what he says.

There is indeed an excellent IFA on this site...... I've had one meeting with him and I learned and was helped more in the one hour with him, than 4 or 5 expensive hours with my previous IFA, at a fraction of the cost and totally transparent. Quick response as well.

Does anyone know if/where the scores are published? I can only see them up to last night. http://www.essexgun.com/masters2015scores.html Thanks

Glad to hear it. Hope recovery is fast.

Don't need a thread to discuss that. It's as certain as anything can be that he will. And, TBH, it makes sense for him. Probably will ****** the country as labour did last time. And just wait for the increasing non-EU immigration, particularly from South Asia. And cuddling up to Jean-Claude Juncker et al...

Interesting point this. I was getting a gun serviced recently and the gunsmith remarked at the good state the firing pins were in and guessed the cartridges that have been used. His opinion was if I'd been using other brands (and mentioned Eleys), there may well have been more pitting/damage to the firing pins from the primers that they use.

Sometimes the old adage of 'there's no such thing as bad publicity', isn't true. I think that some UKIP supporters in this thread have encouraged and deepened the old stereotype negative views of their party. They seem desperately defensive if anyone seeks to understand the logic of switching to UKIP. Bewildering and unattractive.

Actually, the person who seems most sensitive on this matter is you. Any criticism implied or otherwise of UKIP and you launch into a tirade. However, the only chance we have of getting out of Europe is to have a conservative government next time. And if that does happen, which is unlikely for a number of reasons - one of which is that it now looks unlikely that Cameron will be PM, the vote could well result in us staying in Europe. With all the anti-EU rhetoric there has been over the last number of years, nobody has coherently argued the case for staying in the EU and if they did, in the run up to a poll (and that assumes there are good reasons), it is possible that the great British public, 85% of whom are not UKIP supporters, could well vote to stay. I believe a recent poll in the last week or so suggests that the majority of the British public want to stay in the EU - but it's too close to call at the moment, AFAIK. What amazes me is someone like you, who hates conservatives as you do, is a supporter of a party that contains right wing ex-conservatives like Neil Hamilton and the two defecting conservative MPs.

Wish you could respond to a post without having a hissy fit and throwing insults. If you think this country is going to leave Europe, please tell me how this is going to happen? Projections are giving UKIP a handful of seats at most in our first past the post system, labour will probably have the biggest number of seats but short of a majority and EU loving SNP will back them up in opening the borders to more immigration from outside the EU. So if you're happy to have EU loving, immigration friendly, Red Ed in power after May, supported by probably the most enthusiastic EU advocates of all, then you should cheer up as that's the most likely outcome. At least you'll be rid of the hated conservatives.

I've two 525s and they've never missed a beat. I've missed a lot, but it wasn't the gun's fault!

That was very good. Well done. What's the reticule called?

Three days gone, here you go. http://www.essexgun.com/masters2015scores.html Macnificent shooting from Mark Winser who was top until Mark Marshall equalled him yesterday so they're both now equal first on 189/200. Put in a 190 on Sunday and you may be in with a chance!!!! The red course is tougher than the black.... so if you're shooting the red first, eat a third Weetabix in the morning. Good luck.

Agree. Around here the UKIP people that I've spoken to are ex-(far right) tories and ex-BNP. Not exactly an attractive proposition for me. They wouldn't just cut some people's benefits, they'd ban benefits to anyone, judging by their rhetoric on the street a few months ago.

Oops, a bit prickly are we?

Mind you if I lived out Bristol way, I'd be tempted to vote for this UKIP chap. He'll liven things up a bit...... Might even offer to help him with his work. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-32230155

When Nigel retires after he's handed Milliband the election but only gaining a few seats for UKIP, and the country gets opened to unlimited immigration as the last labour government did and we give more away to the EU than ever before, one who could lead the party is their current Deputy Chairman, Neil Hamilton. That well known bastion of honesty and morality. Frightening indeed.

That's what the polls seem to be suggesting. And has been said frequently, the big risk is that the Conservative vote is split in marginals and labour get in. They will lose their Scottish seats, but if UKIP split the 'non labour vote in marginals or even relatively safe conservative seats, then we'll have Ed as PM. The only way to get a referendum on Europe, is to vote conservative.