"Bird" Descriptions

[Chris Bb]

Some shoots and written works refer to various clays as "springing teal", "driven grouse", "ducks", "pheasant", etc. Is there a reference work, somewhere, that lists or describes what to expect from such clays?

 

At my straw bale shoot we usually refer to crossers, risers, floppers & droppers, etc. the only one we seem to get right is "bunnies"!

[Billy.]

Yes. Pheasant clays you will expect to fly over your head from in front of you. It might also be called the high tower. Grouse will be low and fast - the clay ground will probably have a low bunker to shoot from to simulate it better.

 

...Not sure why some are called rabbit though...

[MC]

Bird descriptions at clay shoots refer to how the clays are thrown to simulate the live quarry.

 

For instance a "Springing teal" is usually fast rising and going slightly away as this is how a teal will react if you happen to put one up while walking. A "Driven pheasant/partridge" will normally be coming towards you and overhead to simulate a bird on a formal driven day.

 

There are literally loads of variations on this but usually if a stand says a teal then you know roughly what it will be doing.

 

As so with your descriptions as long as everyone knows what a dropper or flopper, crosser etc is then there is no problem. You would normally see a pair anyway before you start.

[Billy.]

I would also like to add that you can always ask to "see a pair" before you shoot any competition clays. So there is no excuse for a "oh, I didn't know it'd come from there!"

[paulos]

Only if there is nobody shooting when you arrive on a stand. There is nothing more infuriating than somebody queuing for ages waiting to shoot, all the time chatting and faffing on, only to ask to see a pair when it is their go. (Usually preceded by them having to get their gun out of slip and cartridges out of bag, both of which are usually on the floor about 20 yards away)

[MC]

Isn't every shooter entitled to see a pair if they want to?

 

That was always my understanding of it, although some referees make you stand outside the cage which I don't get. Standing outside the cage you will see a different pair of birds.

[paulos]

From the rule book:

 

VIEWING POINT

 

5.00 Any Competitor who has not had an opportunity to

see targets on any stand, i.e. at the commencement of the

competition each day, shall have the right to see one target

from each trap for that stand from a position outside the

stand. All Competitors should avail themselves of the

opportunity to view targets whilst waiting their turn to shoot.

 

So if there is somebody shooting when you arrive at a stand, unless it is particularly awkwardly set, then you have had the opportinity to see the targets

[100milesaway]

Spot on baby face, although I think if you havn't previewed a simultaneous pair then you need to see two pairs to establish which one to take first otherwise ask the marker which is the first bird earlier shooters have gone for first. from Auntie.

[magman]

And if your lucky on a few stands you will see a nice pair (.) (.)

 

 

[Anni]

And if your lucky on a few stands you will see a nice pair (.) (.)

 

 

 

Catton comes to mind

[magman]

Catton comes to mind

 

 

Thats the one (pair)

[Raja Clavata]

Only if there is nobody shooting when you arrive on a stand. There is nothing more infuriating than somebody queuing for ages waiting to shoot, all the time chatting and faffing on, only to ask to see a pair when it is their go. (Usually preceded by them having to get their gun out of slip and cartridges out of bag, both of which are usually on the floor about 20 yards away)

 

Does the south sense the opportunity for some spoling tactics come the north vs south compo

[Anni]

Does the south sense the opportunity for some spoling tactics come the north vs south compo

 

So your not confident your shooting abilities can bring victory Oh dear

Edited October 6, 2009 by Anni

[iceman]

hi when i shot clays mine were called oh dear just over, better luck next time ,nearly got that one ,just behind and how the hell did you miss that one.