kyska Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Not much on the search, I'm picking up a CZ as soon as my one for one variation comes through and the RFD has suggested upgrading the trigger at some point. He strongly suggested not to use after market kits but 'timmely' or something instead. Is this a good thing to do? Kyska Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Rimfire or centrefire? And I wouldn't do anything until you have tried it, adjusted it, and then tried it again - and put a few shots through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 it'll be a timney trigger, depending as stuart says whether ifs rimfire or centrefire depends whether its worth it. The Brookes kits transform the rimfire triggers and are a fraction the cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 (edited) if its a .22 rimfire then if you find your not happy with it then the cheaper route route would be a trigger kit similar to what SYSS are selling, springs and spacers, very easy to fit and makes a world of difference. but as stuartp says try it first to see what you think, everyones different. shaun Edited November 25, 2009 by shaun4860 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Trigger upgrading can make a big difference,but unless competition shooting i wouldnt bother.Once you have the rifle,adjust it if you are not happy and see if that makes it more acceptable.I think the trigger your rfd was speaking about is the Timney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 I agree with Stuart, Don't do anything until you have put a couple of hundred rounds through it. I can't see how the trigger on mine could be improved. OK it isn't like the ones on my target rifles but it ain't bad at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted November 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Its a .17hmr, the RFd just said they are a bit creepy, I'll do as advised and have a play first. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 They are mass produced no two are really the same, I 'did' my .22 as it needed it, but I know at least a couple of others that are really good factory items and not worth fiddling with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooter Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 If you think the pull is a bit much then go for the SYS (rimfire magic) trigger kit. I did both my CZ's with it, and never looked back. You may be surprised how tight the groups get with a trigger that suits you. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albob Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 You may be surprised how tight the groups get with a trigger that suits you. :blink: very good advice and my cz hmr had the eric bookes trigger kit fitted before i bought it,shoots so sweet and is very accurate. my cz 22lr on the other hand was bought new,crown had to be done and barrel floated,still not great at grouping,then the trigger,,4lb pull when tested.. :blink: blimey,pull your shot or what. fitted an eric brookes kit and now shoots very good. timney i believe is adjustable and better. al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George1990 Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 I put a Brookes in my CZ HMR after countless times of getting on target, taking up the pressure (a lot of it!) and firing, only for the trigger to creep and not fire, which could well be more dangerous than having a lighter trigger. Yours might be ok though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyme Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 the standard trigger is way to heavy in my opinion, and is a little creepy, if you havnt got a good trigger pull technique your accuracy will suffer no end, im pants at pulling the trigger sweetly, and the syss 12 squid trigger kit makes a massive difference, the timney kit i think is 100 ish notes !!! like the lads have said put a few hundred rounds through it, and then if its heavy (it will be ) whack a kit and and feel the pleasure of a worthwhile cheap tweak :blink: done both my hmr and lr and a friends lr, just helps you to squeeze the shot of a bit easier and quicker imho. atb pal Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunter1970 Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 have just fitted the rimfire magic kit to my old mans cz hmr as he kept pulling to one side with the trigger being a hard pull,went out mon to rezero and was more or less bullet on bullet ,he cant believe it..best thing to be done to a cz imho.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albob Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 just to add to this thread about the safety aspect of fitting a trigger kit(not the timney). a bolt slam test must be done and a drop test. these are to make sure that the gun does not go off if you slam the bolt in,after or loading a cartridge or the rifle is banged against something or worse,dropped. the drop test(not for the squeamish :blink: ),is hold the gun abovea carpet or similar with the gun vertical and let the gun slip to the ground(about six inches off the floor),obviously if the gun goes of in either of these methods,then the gun trigger is set to light. al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyme Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 The drop test is crucial ! I was advised by a chap who I bought my hmr off who fitted the kit with the medium spring (which I changed for a lighter one) to use a dead blow hammer tapping around the breech and such forth at as many angles as concieveable. Saftey first ! Something I'd advise removal of the scope first. And you can dry fire with spent cartridges rotated away from the previous firing position each time it is fired. So a handfull of brass is a handy tweak aswell as you will want to try a few springs to find what you deem safe to use and IS safe in terms of being set off via a knock. If in doubt leave it to a gunsmith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 The Timney triggers are very good, but I found that the brookes kit worked fine for me. As already said some don't need any work at all, it's just down to luck. The one bad point about the CZs are their triggers, sometimes they can be shocking! It's an easy fix though and with a Brookes kit it's quite cheap. I guess the Timney is better but it really depends what you want to spend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymond Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 i have a 452 american .22 and got an eric brookes kit about 4 years ago. does make a big difference and you get a choice of 4 springs and spacers to use. not too sure if they are easily available now but one thing i would say is to do a drop test after modifying your trigger. you need to be aware of any tendency to fire if dropped, EVEN WHEN SAFETY IS ON !!!! be safe :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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