mfrcus Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 How about the new berreta xplor they look very nice ,anyone seen one in the flesh ,noticed there now forsale in the uk ,myself i reckon i'm gonna get a benneli comfort anyday now ,i would like a supersport but there to much money .cheers marcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 (edited) Errr the answer is AL391 (I have had a total of 4; 2 in wood and 2 in synth). The extrema2 is too heavy and cumbersome (I had one which I had converted to FAC). The Benellis are for the tarts (I have tried and shot plenty and despite being a gun whore I just couldn't bring myself to buy one); they look swanky but you won't want to use it because it kicks like a bitch. Brownings and Franchis have a terrible view down the barrel. Remmingtons are strange to operate by comparison to any of the above. Fabarm, erm yeah, right, nice one. Why not add Webley and Scott and Hatsan to the list? Mods, the definitive answer has been given, you may now close the thread. Edited December 21, 2009 by Mungler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenny Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 Hi shoot with a remi 1100 swear by it cheers Fenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 (edited) Errr the answer is AL391 (I have had a total of 4; 2 in wood and 2 in synth). The extrema2 is too heavy and cumbersome (I had one which I had converted to FAC). The Benellis are for the tarts (I have tried and shot plenty and despite being a gun whore I just couldn't bring myself to buy one); they look swanky but you won't want to use it because it kicks like a bitch. Brownings and Franchis have a terrible view down the barrel. Mods, the definitive answer has been given, you may now close the thread. Kinda right (especially one part) but add AL390 to that list of AL391 as they are near as dammit the same except the AL390 has a better made trigger mech (without plastic bits) :look: Edited December 21, 2009 by malkiserow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 Yep, I have had a Remmy 1100; cheap money but weildy to operate quickly and O rings go almost on a weekly basis. I sold mine to ME about a month ago and I bought another AL391 instead :look: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12guage Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 (edited) As stated above by bullet boy what about a Winchester SX3 3" chamber I have one and I think it is just at home shooting clays as blasting birds out of the sky and I know it will drop a fox at about 60-70 yards ( with full choke)...... just a suggestion with a grand to spend you have a wide range to choose from and I fully agree with the above statement a VERY VERY fast recycle for rapid shooting 3 shots in under 2 seconds ...... good luck in the hunt :look: Edited December 21, 2009 by 12guage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 The Benellis are for the tarts (I have tried and shot plenty and despite being a gun whore I just couldn't bring myself to buy one); they look swanky but you won't want to use it because it kicks like a bitch. Oxymoron surely. Only a tart would complain about recoil, bang in the 3" magnum 50gr loads for some real mens fun :look: Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 (edited) Must tell you this: Any gas-operated gun with its gasport a foot or so up the barrel cannot be faster than a short recoil Winchester Model 50/59 with a Floating Chamber with no gas port or piston; or Benelli Inertia - (Cited Carbine Williams patent!) which also has no gas port. The floating chamber with bolt in place. Below, the solid machined trigger mechanism. (No pressed metal parts of any kind in this gun!). Note the clever piano wire type springs. Simple and cheap to replace, 'though on my two models, they're over 50 years old and still going strong! One of the two springs here does four jobs! The floating chamber with shell, (subsonic; yes, it cycles them!) showing how far it goes into the stub chamber. The action with chamber in place and barrel removed. The man himself, David Marshall 'Carbine' Williams, holding his prototype hand-built first Model 50. Edited December 24, 2009 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted December 21, 2009 Report Share Posted December 21, 2009 Yep, I have had a Remmy 1100; cheap money but weildy to operate quickly and O rings go almost on a weekly basis. I sold mine to ME about a month ago and I bought another AL391 instead :look: My 'o' rings last for ages. Months and months! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 :look: Ive never had to change the o ring in mine, never missed a beat!! Doesnt even jam now Ive cleaned it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerH Posted December 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Anyone have experience of the Webley & Scott? Made in Turkey so is this just a 're-badged' Hatsan or what? Seems good value but what do I know as I started the thread in the first place. At the moment I am wondering whether to splash out on the new Beretta Xplor, but as its so new there may yet be undiscovered flaws... Cheers Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfrcus Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 Anyone have experience of the Webley & Scott? Made in Turkey so is this just a 're-badged' Hatsan or what? Seems good value but what do I know as I started the thread in the first place. At the moment I am wondering whether to splash out on the new Beretta Xplor, but as its so new there may yet be undiscovered flaws... Cheers . Roger I'm in the same boat as you mate ,i've got the money to stretch to a xplor but i'm not sure ,i started out wanting a m2 then swayed towards a flannigan then a ureka 2 sport & then to a benelli comfort but now the xplor is out i,m wondering if i should get one of them.I don't even need a semi ,i just fancy one .As i shoot mostly sporting clays with the odd pidgeon & rabbit i don't need a 3.5 chamber .I dunno decisions ,decisions .Perhaps i'll just get a cheap one & spend the money on something else but i doubt it .cheers marcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil smith Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Errr the answer is AL391 (I have had a total of 4; 2 in wood and 2 in synth). The extrema2 is too heavy and cumbersome (I had one which I had converted to FAC). The Benellis are for the tarts (I have tried and shot plenty and despite being a gun whore I just couldn't bring myself to buy one); they look swanky but you won't want to use it because it kicks like a bitch. Brownings and Franchis have a terrible view down the barrel. Remmingtons are strange to operate by comparison to any of the above. Fabarm, erm yeah, right, nice one. Why not add Webley and Scott and Hatsan to the list? Mods, the definitive answer has been given, you may now close the thread. Hi Mung These which semi-auto threads just keep repeating over & over again. I dont like the Xtrema 2 for the same reasons as you, its just to big & heavy & handles to slowly. As to Benelli's I would much rather be a tart than 2nd as my sig line says "It Doesn't Matter If You Win Or Lose...........Until You Lose" then it matters a lot, remember 2nd is as close as you can get to winning but still lose ! Once you have "lost" often enough you tend to gravitate towards the brands that can deliver the reliability on demand, not just now & then. I do agree that recoil in the old Benelli M1 was stiff & I didn't like them for that reason & as a result I had several of the more common gas guns instead, Remington,Browning etc for many years, but the M2 is a very different beast, the comfortec recoil reducing stock combined with its thick gel butt pad really tame the recoil brilliantly, shooting the old M1 is nothing like the new M2, chalk & cheese I feel. The M2 is light weight & fast handling, I knew the moment I put it to my shoulder it was what I had been looking for, It has also been a flawless performer with all ammo types (slug,buck,bird) for several seasons now. Remingtons are OK, keep on top of the maintenance & it should serve for many years, they have far to many annoying little pressed steel parts in the gun & many break with regularity but they are good value second hand, just get yourself some spares "in stock" as it were before hand. If I couldn't have a Benelli for whatever reason the Winchester SX3 would be my second choice, again light weight but it is a gas operated design which requires you get dirty cleaning it, something Benelli owners do not need to worry about. The secret is of course to get to try as many different types of gun before you buy one in order to find what you like best, for me the M2 is head & shoulders above everthing else. Regards N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerH Posted December 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Thanks to Neil and everyone else for taking the time to respond to my question. As has been suggested this subject has probably now been done to death and the rest is now up to me. Mods - feel free to draw a line if you wish. PMs still welcome however. Cheers Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeainscow Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 I must agree with the other winchester lads. It was never intentional but all my firearms are winchester?? From rifles to shotguns. I could only ever recommend either an SX3 or save yourself £500 and get a mint secondhand SX2. The SX3 is lighter than the SX2 but are pretty much the same gun. I've never had anything go wrong with any of my firearms. I've heard rumors that if you bought a 3.5inch chamber and put 65mm cartridges in you can get 3 in the magazine. Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 (edited) For your interest, I have added some pics, (Page 4), describing the now very rare Winchester Model 50 and 59* *the action featured has a fibre-glass wound, 20 thou. inch thick barrel liner! Edited December 24, 2009 by Floating Chamber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ears Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 BERETTA AL 391 OR URIKA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popgun Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Winchester SX3 super it's the dogs danglies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Semi-autos are for mincers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Elvis Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 What you really mean is for southerners......because you northern monkeys aint developed opposing thumbs yet so you cant load them!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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