the gibbon Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 I went last night and there was hardley any rabbits out where i know there is a big population of rabbits. fireworks were close and people in the next field walked there dogs. its in the side of a bank that leads up to the train track. Does anyone know what could of happend to make then so shy i was in full camo apart ffrom my face. The Gibbon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roblade Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 I went last night and there was hardley any rabbits out where i know there is a big population of rabbits. fireworks were close and people in the next field walked there dogs. its in the side of a bank that leads up to the train track. Does anyone know what could of happend to make then so shy i was in full camo apart ffrom my face. The Gibbon ok now lets see: we had fireworks going off close by? people walking. dogs. do you really need to ask why the rabbits didnt come out to play? LOL might be best if you choose one of the quiet nights to try a bit of lamping ROB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 errr let me see. No can't think of anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24joy Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Could the fireworks have been a little boring or something better on the telly for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 you've answered your own question there max,don't bother going if fireworks are going off nearby and cover your face up, you can spot hands and faces from a long way off , even on the darkest nights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maori Haz Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 yeah i agree with Mel max, you can still see faces in darkness from long ways off. MH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gibbon Posted November 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Thanks for the advice people i havent done alot of lamping befor so any advice does help alot. The gibbon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Gibbon, Rabbits are just as sensitive at night if not more so. The biggest problem you face is that they can see and hear alot better than you at night. Also judging distance is very also very hard. When using your lamp switch on bring it down then accross and past the rabbits, then off. This will give you an idea of where they are. Make your way, as best you can, to a position without disturbing them. Using the same method as before use your lamp to light em up. When you are happy your in range and ready for the shot, on with the lamp the same way, take aim and take shot your shot. Dont light them up too much as they will get wise and clear off. As for other precautions, well same as daytime shooting. Cover up, know your land and you should do fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gibbon Posted November 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Thanks AXE Will use that next time i go. Thanks for the help The Gibbon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Had a good one last night. Went out with a friend who had never been out before. He is an ACE target shooter. I would bet my last tenner on him beating anyone! But by his own admission all his shooting is done prone, at 25m in the light so he was tatally in new territory. First shot of the evening 33m clean kill. That got the confidence going and showed him I know a little bit as well!! Next one in the middle of the field not as clean (It took 3 head shots to calm it down, one tough cookie) Last one was where I light the target up for my mate, he took a shot, missed, the rabbit bolted and I picked it off at about 30m. Chuffed to heck I was. I was really pleased with my standard of shooting last night. It makes all the difference psychologically. (Actually the last rabbit was courtesy of AXE, so that made a double brace) All rabbits dressed and distributed as of this morning. Job done, and BIG smiles all round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gibbon Posted November 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Sounds like you had a good night do you use any filters on your lamps because some one told me that the red filter is good for rabbits?? dont know if he knew what he was talkin about tho. The Gibbon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kip270 Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 I use a red filter for rabbiting and foxing, and found that they are less spooked by this than without one. It also makes the eyes show up better as well. i have spotted foxes over 300yards (not shot them at that range though) and as long as you have the wind in your favour you can sneek up on them. The rabbits seem to ignore the red filter, but as soon as you flip it up they are more alert. Depends on how much lamping they have encountered, and how many times they have been missed.Try not to educate them too much(ie missing) and you will reap the rewards Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave66 Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Does anybody know of a good material for making red filters, have tried some red perspex but the lamp dims right down, the wife reckons red acetite film would work well, if I could find some Also, out lamping with the dog ( whippet/collie ) without a red filter she follows/looks down the beam every time, if I try the lamp with a red filter on, the dog just ignores it, I have tried putting the filter on after spotting a rabbit with the dog, and she just switches off. Thanks Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Does anybody know of a good material for making red filters, have tried some red perspex but the lamp dims right down, the wife reckons red acetite film would work well, if I could find some Dave Dave 1 vital piece of info is missing here mate ..................The power/range of your beam. An ideal senario would be a 1000m beam(if there is such a thing)with the darkest red filter you could find or make attached to it. My 400m beam with a red filter attached then becomes a 100-150m beam........depends how good my eyes are. Try stretching some cling film over your lamp and applying a red marker pen to it.Yes it's a temporary measure but a permanent solution would be clear plastic and this time use a washable marker until you get a beam you are happy with then use a permanent one. As for the Dog ...............I'm no expert here but don't they like routine . Hope this is of some use. Ive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kip270 Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 i use a cluson Lazer-Lite 1 million candle power 1,000 metre beam High-tech Xenon bulb - 50w and yes when you put the red filter on you do think that the lamp dims but you do not lose any range for spotting rabbits/foxes, you will still spot the eyes as i have said previously, i have spotted foxes in excess of 300yards, and rabbits at 150 yards. You are not trying too light up the whole field....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 "Does anybody know of a good material for making red filters, have tried some red perspex but the lamp dims right down, the wife reckons red acetite film would work well, if I could find some" I can send anyone 2 x A5 ish size sheets (of two different reds) to select the shade of red/amount of light that they let through for a fiver in a self addressed/stamped A5 size envelope These are what disco's use and theaters cover their stage lights with pm me for my addy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 Does anybody know of a good material for making red filters, have tried some red perspex but the lamp dims right down, the wife reckons red acetite film would work well, if I could find some The first filter I made was last Christmas and it was made from the red sweet wrappers from the Quality Street tins. They are very thin and work well over any lamp. This is very Blue Peter I know but it did work until I bought a specialist lamp. They were just sellotaped over the end of the lamp. Not really removable but carry a seperate white light and you are sorted! And besides this is the time of year when the shop are full of Quality Street! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 Sounds like you had a good night do you use any filters on your lamps because some one told me that the red filter is good for rabbits?? dont know if he knew what he was talkin about tho. The Gibbon A tip i have heard but not tried is to vary the coulour of filter you use. How this works as the rabbits are colour blind I do not know but it maybe worth a try! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 Snakebite, the thing to remember here is that the rabbit apprantly see's in two tone, so in theory it is not colour blind. But the point is that it will perceive a change in filter as a different grade of its tonal vision. So when it finally gigures out the tone for red means danger, present it with a tone for green etc. But never having tried this out I cant say it will work for sure. I just find the red filter is better for picking out the rabbits in the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 The only thing to do is try! Anything that works is good in my book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJaxeman Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 Blue is a good colour to use if you have used up the white/red light options up all ready. Nice and clear but not to over powering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Blue is a good colour to use if you have used up the white/red light options up all ready. Nice and clear but not to over powering. hEARD A RUMOUR THAT IT ALSO CUTS THROUGH THE MIST as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Hi, Snakebite, that's what logun advertise when trying to sell their packs of £14.99 filter packs for their lamp. :thumbs: FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 Hi, Snakebite, that's what logun advertise when trying to sell their packs of £14.99 filter packs for their lamp. :thumbs: FM So it has to be true then What is the green for then? Smog? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJaxeman Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 (edited) I know thats what logun advertise but it's a alternative to red and it does seem to confuse them for a bit LOL LOL LOL, and gives a good clarity through the scope. The green thingy is for the HULKY thing :thumbs: Edited November 12, 2005 by JJaxeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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