shadowman Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 markbivvy, just STFU numbnuts, i am not here to make enemys but your obv making me. this is not your post etc, and frank seems to a good chap to me, that post you quoted from me was last ******** year ya fool. so please get a grip and act your age! topic closed admin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tam Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 Time Elvis left the building methinks Tam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 markbivvy, just STFU numbnuts, i am not here to make enemys but your obv making me. this is not your post etc, and frank seems to a good chap to me, that post you quoted from me was last ******** year ya fool. so please get a grip and act your age! topic closed admin? blow it out of your ****. heard it all before from idiots like you. who shoot cats with there over the limit popguns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kip270 Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 we all like foxes, but it's a fact of life that they must be controlled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted November 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 Exactly my point. At the end of the day, they have to be controled, weather we like it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowman Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 (edited) over pwrd pop guns? what ya call my Beretta silver pigeon? my .22 tika? spudguns? AND WELL SAID! i do like foxes thats why i said i am against it, but... i have to face it! i have to shoot them myself now and again, Edited November 20, 2005 by shadowman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M ROBSON Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 we all like foxes, but it's a fact of life that they must be controlled I don't like foxes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snotty Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 I don't like foxes, here's a friendly old welsummer chook who got foxed last week along with 5 of her friends. Ripped them to shreds and left them to die in agony, feathers everywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted November 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 Snotty, thanks for the pic, well demonstrated. This is what i mean, they will stop at nothing. Ok, so why dont you shut them up at night some would say? Simple, foxes dont allways just come at night. My mate lost 9 good laying hens to a fox, right in the middle of the day and he was in the house decorating when he heard all the comotion. When he got their, it was mass carnage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimescar-keeper Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 Cant say im overly fond of foxes. Might i be speaking for a few other keepers out there?? Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 (edited) foxes are just unlucky that they feed on things we grow to eat. they kill animals which at the end of the day we want for either sentimental values or to eat. foxes kill more than they need, and need to be controlled same as any other pest. I appreciate them for what they are, they are amazingly clever creatures and it makes me enjoy hunting them all the more, becuase its a challenge and has an imediate effect on the surrounding area. i have alot of respect for my quarry, but even more for the fox. this dosent stop me shooting them, as said many times, pests must be controlled, just like ants, rats what ever. just becuase its fluffy dosent make it nice, the anti's just dont see this becuase they are too busy trying to ban shooting and hunting. And just miss the bit where the fox kills all those lovely free range chickens which they quite happily eat, just becuase they only see it when its got 2 layers of plastic on it and has been soaked in chemicals to make it taste like a bogo standard supermarket chicken if you cant bare to kill one yourself, dont eat it. i believe this should be true, people should face up to where things come from, jamie oliver and hugh fernly what-nottingstal have hit the nail on the head in this aspect. life isnt all pretty, this is why foxes have to be controlled. Edited November 21, 2005 by dunganick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kip270 Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 Well said Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmick Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 well done frank....great shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted November 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 Cheers Bigmick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 what ya call my Beretta silver pigeon? my .22 tika? dream on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 As usual Frank good humane kills.......Well done Can you tell us more about the Photo,,ie what range were the shots taken and did you squeak them in ETC! I Have only managed to shoot one Fox that has'nt had an exit wound the size of a fist ...The lenght of his body absorbed the energy of the V-max and his pelt is ready any day now .(It's a shame to have to bury them when they are like that ) Control and Conservation ,Yes that's whats it's all about. Ive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted November 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 No problem Ive. The top fox in the picture was taken at 88yds, the Grafphic fox at the bottom, was at 178 yds. I try not to go beyond 200 at night. If i whistle them in and its 50 yds or less, i go for the brain, the pelt gets saved then and if its a good one, i get around 15 euro for it, unskined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edd Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 great shooting frank as u said they need controlling as they stop at nothing .. regards edd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted November 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 Thanks Edd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 Snotty, thanks for the pic, well demonstrated. This is what i mean, they will stop at nothing. Ok, so why dont you shut them up at night some would say? Simple, foxes dont allways just come at night. My mate lost 9 good laying hens to a fox, right in the middle of the day and he was in the house decorating when he heard all the comotion. When he got their, it was mass carnage! :o Hi, We have been foxed in the day and night. :< They push up the sliding door of the chicken house and get in then kill everything. Rarely quickly :< as was the case when they killed our Wellsummer chicks last year after breaking in to a rearing cage by digging underneath. It took 1 which it dropped and the rest died of their wounds. ( Must buy my gran a .223 she'd use it! ) We also have problems with the badger which has killed all of our flock on several occasions when it breaks into the house by lifting the door up. We find them curled up asleep in the corner when morning comes with the dead uneaten chickens lying around them. A pair got trapped in what is now my ferret cub when they smashed through 2 sheets of plywood. Pound for pound Badgers must be the strongest, toughest and vicious creatures I have had the displeasure of meeting at close range. I see 'em all the time lamping in the field next door to the Chickens. I like seeing foxes and providing there isn't too many I'd preserve them for the hounds but would control them if there is too many. FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted November 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 You are very correct Ferret Master, they are a very powerfull animal the badger. I have witnessed one dragging a fallow carcass, across a feild in lamp light. Came back the next day and followed the tracks, it had draged it half a mile to its set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 Badgers can do just as much if not more damage than foxes. In my opinion there does need to be a clause in the law that allows culling in areas with large populations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kip270 Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 jordan. it is being looked into, tb is getting more prolific and there are calls for licences to be issued in areas designated by DEFRA.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted November 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 Over here, Badgers are culled regularily in TB rife areas, by the Dept. of Agriculture. They set live catch snares and then humanely dispatch them with a shot to the brain, using a .22 lr rifle. They then get sent off to the lab for autopsy. It has been found that 30% of the badgers in an infected area are positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 Over here, Badgers are culled regularily in TB rife areas, by the Dept. of Agriculture.They set live catch snares and then humanely dispatch them with a shot to the brain, using a .22 lr rifle. They then get sent off to the lab for autopsy. It has been found that 30% of the badgers in an infected area are positive. Over here, Frank, they are run over on a regular basis LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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