JMW Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 Guys, Got some light 21g loads for my Escort 12g semi auto to see if it would cycle them, got home, and it cycled three of them without a problem so I tried some white gold 28g steel load, again cycled fine. Then I put through a 42g load. After that it wouldn't cycle any rounds. Gun is 4 weeks old and worked fine last week at the clay ground. Only 100 shells through it. I had a look at the barrel and at the end where the choke is screwed in, there was no choke, I know there was one screwed in, there was also a bulge on one side and the barrel was out of shape. The thread was damaged but choke was missing? Anyone else had anything like this happen? I have heard of a bulge the whole way round when the choke gets lose but just on one side? I took it back to my local RFD and he is sorting it out. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 seems like things fly off of these guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojusa Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...c=86320&hl= Yeah, I've had the same happen. Barrel was replaced FOC but never felt safe with it so it had to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 The problem may have been caused by the choke not being screwed in tightly and wadding being forced behind it after each shot gradually causing constriction eventually being too tight for the shot and wadding resulting in the choke being ripped from the thread. Just a thought. I had one for a while had problems simalar to you, not cycling some rounds, chopped it in for a 22LR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMW Posted June 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 The problem may have been caused by the choke not being screwed in tightly and wadding being forced behind it after each shot gradually causing constriction eventually being too tight for the shot and wadding resulting in the choke being ripped from the thread. Just a thought. I had one for a while had problems simalar to you, not cycling some rounds, chopped it in for a 22LR I had a look for the choke but no luck. I was thinking of not taking the replacement and using the money I spent on the escort to put towards something else, if that's a possibility. I've only had my licence a short time and its a concern that even with normal load I've had this trouble. Any thoughts on a reliable semi / OU for about 600 pounds? J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xav Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 I had a look for the choke but no luck. I was thinking of not taking the replacement and using the moneyI spent on the escort to put towards something else, if that's a possibility. I've only had my licence a short time and its a concern that even with normal load I've had this trouble. Any thoughts on a reliable semi / OU for about 600 pounds? J S/h Lanber or Lincoln are decent guns for the money or a Gold if you want a semi auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 A common problem with these guns . Hatsan seem to lack the ability to cut threads to barrels and chokes . We have had a number of posts on this forum from escort owners with this problem . I wouldnt touch one with an elongated barge pole . It wont be long before somebody is injured from the shrapnel of one of these guns letting go . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 my mate had the same problem as you took it back after 6 weeks played hell with them got loads of bull of them makein out its his fault any way got money back and got a barreta auto and is chuffed to bits with it and it chucks owt u put in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMW Posted June 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 An update Spoke to my local RFD who has sent my Escort back, he spoke to someone who said that they are going to accept responsibility and hopefully send me a complete replacement, but he needs to run it past his manager and I should know for definite by next week. If I do get a replacement RFD is happy to give me a full refund so I can purchase something different. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev 1 Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 Just a reminder... do not put the fancy extended chokes in these guns as the same will happen... When i use mine i always make sure the choke is nice and tight as they can start to work loose.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 I had a look for the choke but no luck. I was thinking of not taking the replacement and using the moneyI spent on the escort to put towards something else, if that's a possibility. I've only had my licence a short time and its a concern that even with normal load I've had this trouble. Any thoughts on a reliable semi / OU for about 600 pounds? J Beretta a303 if you can find a decent one or a secondhand 391 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian28 Posted June 4, 2010 Report Share Posted June 4, 2010 browning fusion 12g semi auto 3 shot In the sales section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoughton Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 It really is essential to check for tightness of the choke(s) of any gun. They don't often work loose (it's never happened on my Lanber) but I have to admit that the Hatsan Escorts are prone to it unless the choke tube has been nipped up nice and tight - tighter than you normally need to on other guns. The problem you describe is exactly what happens when the choke comes loose and shot/wadding can form pressure between the choke tube and the barrel. With regard to blame - a loose choke should be checked for - BUT the design could be considered weak in this area, in my opinion. Edgar Brothers have their reputation to consider and generally always do the decent thing. My Son has one of these guns and I check the choke is good and tight everytime I get it out of the cabinet and after cleaning. Since making extra efforts to tighten it more fully we've not had a single issue. I suspect that the O ring blew causing your gun to fail to cycle. Don't be too put off of the Hatsan Escort - it still offers remarkable value for money - again in my opinion! Despite the concerns we hear about bear in mind that there are loads and loads of these guns around and the vast majority are used without any issue. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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