wickerman_1969 Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 right, im just starting out in shooting,ive shot before but this is the first time that i will have owned a gun. ive jsut applied for my shotgun certificate,and was wondering if anyone could recommend a deceant gun for a beginer,one that is reasonably cheap,but still good enough for rough shooting on farms and stuff? ive heard that Baikal and AYA were good guns for the money,is this true,and if so,how much should i be looking to spend on one? Also,and this may sound very stupid but bere in mind that im a beginer, what is ment by "choke"? thanks mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewyjack.22 Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 (edited) Hi mike, when i first started i was told to get a 12b over and under sporter multi choke, which i did and it was pretty good advice as i've used it for pigeon shooting, rough shooting and clay pigeons. Choke relates to the last 2 inches of the barrel the more open the choke is the more spread on the shot pattern, for closer range, and as you go through the chokes (1/4. 1/2. 3/4 and full etc ) the tighter the pattern at greater distance, each being a bit tighter than the last hope this helps Best of luck with the sgc application Edited December 6, 2005 by chewyjack.22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn9914 Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 (edited) What about my midland 502 in the for sale thread £300 multi choke gun, good condition ideal 1st gun gun for sale cheers shawn Edited December 6, 2005 by shawn9914 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Welcome to the site mate. Good luck with the application, may be a bit delayed with christmas and all that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickerman_1969 Posted December 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 ah, things making a bit more sense now, thanks for that guys. ive bee nlooking at getting an o/u,and heard that Baikal and AYA were good for a first,all purpose hard wearing gun,what make would you recomend for a beginer? thanks mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewyjack.22 Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Have a look around mike, get the best you can afford, as you say baikal, aya, lanber, fabarm and many more i expect are all great guns and if looked after will last you years. and the more you pay for it the better you'll look after it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenbears10 Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 baikal are cheap but you will be better spending the same on a secondhand gun which was more expensive new. What is your budget roughly? Browning medalists are what a lot of people start with or something similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibby Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Hi there, youre saying youre looking for a cheap gun... in my opinion its worth spending that little extre and getting a decent new one. atleast new you will know that there are no problems. I think its Lanber that start their range at about £495, but if you want a gun thats going to last you for life, you cant go far wrong with the Berettas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickerman_1969 Posted December 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 well my budget will really be 300 to 500 max, but everyone that ive spoken to that has had/got a Baikal said that they are a really good working gun,and that they arent bad but are actually quite good. what types of second hand guns do you recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 (edited) some good guns in this sites for sale section. if you have £500 you dont need to buy a baikal. http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...showtopic=12743 if you can buy this for £500, get it. http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...showtopic=12729 or this. Edited December 6, 2005 by markbivvy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickerman_1969 Posted December 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 so what make would you recomend for me then? i htink the price will be more around 400,can you get berettas at this price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 look round mate,you will find one, they are like second hand cars.( loads for sale). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickerman_1969 Posted December 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 ok,thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibby Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 www.guntrader.co.uk great site, you can put in your budget. all you have to do is click on the tab guns for sale, select shotgun, then click the boxes your looking at and then it will come up with a load of results and flick through. Gibby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 shawn9914 has a nice o/u for sale, at a very good price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wickerman_1969 Posted December 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 ok thanks guys,ill give gun trader and shawn9914 a look in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novice cushie shooter Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 Hey wickerman, I used a baikal for 7yrs until the stock cracked, it was a great gun and not too heavy,if the gun is well looked after you should not have any problems. But if you can try before you buy. i just bought a winchester sporter for £700 which is a great budget/novice shooter allrounders gun tho a bit out of your price range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted December 7, 2005 Report Share Posted December 7, 2005 shawn, has a nice gun forsale dont buy a baikal the stocks are to short.but a hard hitting gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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