hamster123 Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 i am now in the market for a 17 hmr i think i will have to go down the second hand way as im after a new semi auto.my budget will be around the 700 mark i woulde like one with scope for this price any recomendations please?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 you wont go wrong with a CZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 And use an ASE UTRA mod as there's a noticeable difference between those and the SAK, fire suit donned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 If the idea of a ruddy gurt magazine pokin out the bottom to always foul SOMETHING wouldn't annoy the 'ell outa ya then maybe a CZ or Annie. If you'd like a rifle with an uncluttered smooth stock and flush fitting magazine below the barrel that won't foul gateposts, door mirrors etc then a Sako is the one to have if you can find the extra dosh. If you get the quad you can add any other rimfire barrel to it at a later date for about £150 - the ejector claw would benefit with 5 minutes of fettling if you go down the .22lr route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 If you get the quad you can add any other rimfire barrel to it at a later date for about £150 - the ejector claw would benefit with 5 minutes of fettling if you go down the .22lr route. that's a gimmick I'd rather have 3 CZ's in different calibers and not have to re-zero the quad every time I changed the barrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster123 Posted July 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 i have cz sillouette in 22lr and to be fair its quite good just dont no what the next level would be.or do you think im better off with cz and putting more money into scope im looking at them s and b that are on other sales at the minuite by scotish rifles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 Yeah I'd rather have cz with better glass than better gun and poorer scope. Not much point in having a gun that will produce 1 hole groups if you can't see the target to shoot it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 i have cz sillouette in 22lr and to be fair its quite good just dont no what the next level would be.or do you think im better off with cz and putting more money into scope im looking at them s and b that are on other sales at the minuite by scotish rifles. I'm in a similar position, I have a CZ Silhouette .22LR and shortly getting an HMR. Think I'll get a CZ Style so I can tell them apart As said above, get a CZ and leave yourself more to spend on a scope, not that an HMR needs an uber scope but a Falcon Menace FFP couldn't hurt, that way you can use the full mag range and know the POI won't shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robc89 Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 CZ all the way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez325 Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 CZ 452 with a 16" Varmint barrel DM 80 mod and some nice glass- does the job very well on Mr Wabbit Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 i have cz sillouette in 22lr and to be fair its quite good just dont no what the next level would be.or do you think im better off with cz and putting more money into scope im looking at them s and b that are on other sales at the minuite by scotish rifles. personally those scopes are overkill for an HMR and well used, with your budget if you look at second hand HMR's lots seem to come up then get a decent 4-16 or so scope, you don't need a real top end scope as much as you do on a foxing or stalking rifle. I've a nikko sterling on mine and its fine, usually shooting is daylight or under the lamp rather than trying to make out foxes at last light when better glass makes the difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster123 Posted July 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 what model nikko would you reccomend? and a rough price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 the platinum nighteaters are pretty good, sub £200 should see you with a decent one, opticswarehouse are a good place to try though their scope part of the website looks like its being re designed at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster123 Posted July 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 ill get a price off them and then give a local dealer a chance to see if they can get anywere near it thank you ill let you no how i get on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ioan Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 I have an MTC Viper on my HMR, 6- 24x 56 it was around the £250. I had never really heard of them before i bought, but read one or two reviews and went for it. Very impressed too. though once u get up past 20 x mag its not soo good as more expensive scopes. tend to keep mine at 10x! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkPoacher Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Cz452 17hmr, gets my vote. Mine has 16" heavy barrel and sak mod. Scope wise I went for 6-24x50 hawke sr12 which heps maximize the 200 yard potential. Unless you spend a grand you won't get great clarity past 20x on many scopes. Harris bipod included total package about £650. good luck. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster123 Posted July 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 been offerd a sako quad with a.s.e mod 500 any reviews please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 (edited) Well my local feller quoted me £355 for a 20" and £400 for a 16" Style or Silhouette. From what I've read the Utra "might" be better but opinion is divided and they're a lot more money than the trusty SAK and it's like with CF mods, it's still gonna go bang. Not sure a rabbit really cares about a few dB's difference. Like I said, I'm in a similar position but think I'll go 20" Silhouette (have it longer than my LR so it'll sit in the cabinet with the mod off and the LR will do most of the lamping). I have a Hawke Endurance 30IR to go on it (unless I stumble on a Falcon Menace deal)... just need that damn variation back! Edited July 12, 2010 by Colster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 If you are talking about a budget of about £700 for the HMR then you can get a really good quality complete outfit and still have some change, even if you buy a brand new rifle rather than a second hand one that you might not know anything about! I am a great lover of the CZ452 Varmint 17HMR and I swear by mine. It has taken a bit of ammo to get the barrel to settle in but it was well worth it to have what I class as "Supreme Accuracy"! With regards to scopes you do not need to spend hundreds of pounds on your optics to have a set that will do every thing that is asked of them in both daylight and on the lamp! I used to have a set of Nikko Stirling Gameking 4-16X50 scopes on mine (Aproximately £70.00 new from J S Ramsbottoms) and the only reason I change them was because I wanted to fit them on my .222 so I replaced them with a cheap set of SMK 4-16X50 AOE scopes that cost me £30.00 and find that they do the job perfectly! OK, you might have slightly better optics if you get a set of S&Bs or Swaro's (for about 10 times the price) but I have to wonder if the extra little bit of quality is worth that much extra when you can hit a small target consistently with scopes like I have? See my latest video of "Coin Shooting" and you will see what I mean at: http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/ind...howtopic=131271 All you need to add to that then is a SAK moderator which does a pretty good job just as well as any of them that are double the price, a Harris Bipod, a Sling and Slip and maybe a Spare Magazine and your are set up with a great hunting tool that will last you a lifetime if you treat it right and still have plenty of change out of your £700 to buy me a drink for my valuable advice! Whatever you chose I am sure that you will be delighted with it, the HMR takes some beating! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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