flash Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 (edited) my dads looking will be looking for a .223 for when he gets the variation and he is not sure what make to buy.it will be primarily for foxing and a bit of target shooting flash it would need to be screwcut for a silencer as he wouldnt want to risk getting one threaded if it didnt pass the proofing Edited December 19, 2005 by flash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 get a pen ready,you will now get a list as long as your arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 For £400 Ask mark above about his CZ American I have the more expensive Tikka M595 Ive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 it would need to be screwcut for a silencer as he wouldnt want to risk getting one threaded if it didnt pass the proofing Flash, I would honestly say that you would have more chance of being struck by lightening and winning the lottery on the same day, than a rifle not passing proof after screw-cutting. G.M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 I have the more expensive Tikka M595 posh ***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 surfing waves when i get the chance and snorkling with a spear gun. told ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 A second hand CZ 527 .223 that has been looked after might fit you bill, for the price your father wants to pay anyhow. I have a CZ .223 and love it, very accurate with most factory ammo, (all group within an inch ) , you get a lot of gun for your money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 I reckon you will get a lot of CZ votes here, so I will add mine! I bought mine with scope and rings and flogged those, so the gun only cost me about £250, which was a bit of a bargain. You may be looking at a bit of a ropey Tikka unless you upped the budget a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 You may be looking at a bit of a ropey Tikka unless you upped the budget a bit. man at the gun shop said all tikka,s are made this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 man at the gun shop said all tikka,s are made this way. Yea but you would'nt know this mark cus you have to be a posh *** to own one Ive PS....... Don't tell the wife .......She still thinks it only cost £300 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 She still thinks it only cost £300 bad man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted December 20, 2005 Report Share Posted December 20, 2005 You may be looking at a bit of a ropey Tikka unless you upped the budget a bit. man at the gun shop said all tikka,s are made this way. all tikka's are made by sako, and they arnt ropey never come across a bad tikka, lovely guns, little pricey these days. i will give you my verdict on the Howa 1500 in a few months, action will cost £350 and you could have a laminate stock made for as little as $99 plus a few $ for shipping, some bases and your away. the action is based loosely on rem 700, sako and is the same gun as a weatherby vanguard (spelling?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 i will give you my verdict on the Howa 1500 Nick Anything the Japs do these days is 100% spot on ................This should turn out to be a first class gun .............It'll be interesting as no one else on here as owned one so you'll be the first. Has i said in PWA leave it be and see how it performs before floating the barrel. Them slant eyed fellows are clever ******* when it comes to making things and by altering the factory spec you might end up regretting it :thumbs: Ive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisv Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 Nick, I've mostly heard good things about Howas. I've seen two and the owners were very pleased with them. Don't buy the synthetic stocked one though, they are very flimsy and would be hopeless to use with a bipod! As you say there are other options when it comes to stocks, though the wood and laminate ones are pretty good value and look very good. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 (edited) i will give you my verdict on the Howa 1500 Nick Anything the Japs do these days is 100% spot on ................This should turn out to be a first class gun .............It'll be interesting as no one else on here as owned one so you'll be the first. Has i said in PWA leave it be and see how it performs before floating the barrel. Them slant eyed fellows are clever ******* when it comes to making things and by altering the factory spec you might end up regretting it :thumbs: Ive Trouble is mate that the stock it will sit in will be a custom stock (not factory, or even made by howa) , and as such i will float it straight away, if it does proove it shoots better unfloated, i will simply bed the barrel (more consistant than a wood/metal fit) The reason i have chosen the custom stock, is becuase of the awful synthetic stock, and becuase i can build up a gun with a high grade custom stock, for pretty much the same money a factory gun with the factory (actually a boyds) laminated thumbhole stock, which i dislike the colours of. at the moment there are two things slowing the project down. first is my .223 variation, which i dont actually have yet. (been with plod about 2 weeks now) second is the custom stock, which is going to be here in about 6 weeks. pretty much everything else is sitting next to me, itching to get used. hopefully i will get the rifle trade price, and as such, the rifle and stock will cost about £450 plus a few hundred £ worth of bipods, scopes, dies, brass etc... and im away. i will be working up a kind of diary as i go along, and will make a post once its been put together. Edited December 29, 2005 by dunganick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 (edited) Anything the Japs do these days is 100% spot on ................This should turn out to be a first class gun .............It'll be interesting as no one else on here as owned one so you'll be the first. Err…bought one of the first in the country @ 8 years ago. Bloody good gun. Wish I’d never sold it. Oh,....... the comb conversion was my own work. G.M. Edited December 29, 2005 by Gemini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 lovely gun mate, nice work on the cheek piece. so i will be the second person im not complaining, hopefully it will be a great gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 I found the cheek-piece to be a little bit too big on that rifle, and that’s why I planed it off and cut the adjustable bit in. The gun was in .222Rem and was very heavy with a very long bolt action due to Howa making one action for several different calibres. The action was bloody massive for such a small calibre, and added to the overall weight, but it did mean that the strike was able to be observed. The bolt did tend to lift whilst carrying and although not too discerning, it did become a habit to make sure it was fully down before taking a shot. It had an integral magazine with an opening floor-plate that enabled it to be unloaded from the bottom and the only reason I sold it was because I wanted a .243. It was made for RWS and was sold as the RWS 89. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 intresting, howa now have two action sizes, the short and the long, and the 223 is a short action, so hopefully no problem there. but as im geting the heavy barrel im exprecting it to be heavy. might have it re-barreled if the weight is that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussex lad Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 PS....... Don't tell the wife .......She still thinks it only cost £300 :thumbs: :thumbs: You to eh My misses thinks nothing in my cabinet was anymore than 300 quid God i hope she never finds the receipt for the AR15 Going off track a bit how do you guys insure your toys ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 (edited) Nick, have you ever thought of trying one of these below, its the Kevlar varmint stock? http://www.cz-usa.com/01.detail.php?id=13 and: http://www.snipercentral.com/cz527.htm It might save you a lot in the long run. Altough you have said you already got the stock ect. Just a thought anyhow. Edited December 30, 2005 by Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 the tactical CZ is £979, my whole gun assembled wont cost 2/3rds of that. its mainly a money thing. i like the CZ's i have one, and use a old one in 22 hornet for most of the sporting competitions i do. but i think i can get a gun which i personally will like alot more, with a nicer bit of wood on it, for almost the same price as a new CZ with standard barrel etc... i did consider several others, including CZ, and i did get offered a model 70 for not alot of £, but ive set my heart on the howa, so we shall see how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 Fair enough Nick, its what you are happy with at the end that counts mate. :thumbs: The best of luck with it, hope you get it soon. :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 Err…bought one of the first in the country @ 8 years ago. Bloody good gun. Wish I’d never sold it. I knew as soon as i posted this that this would happen Gemini :*) .......Theres always one Sussex As I am a member of a Rifle and pistol club my gear comes automatically under their cover .........Which i'll add was a pleasant surprise ........I have Checked :thumbs: I did look into it though some time back and Churchill will cover your guns under their contents so long as they each don't exceed a certain price range and that the cover is the one where your contents are covered outside the home . CIS who I was with at the time would'nt even entertain such a cover :thumbs: Hope this is of some use Ive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 CIS who I was with at the time would'nt even entertain such a cover Another reason not to shop at the CO-OP. The first being that they wont allow hunting on their farms! Frank, hadn't you realised that Nick likes something 'different'. I am very surprised that he has lowered his standards and gone for .223! I was looking forward to hear about a .22PPC from somebody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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