If you were loking for..........

[mayfly36]

A 4x4 for the field and road. would you go for manual trans or auto.?

Edited July 28, 2010 by mayfly36

[henry d]

I would try the 4x4 section ?

[mayfly36]

I would try the 4x4 section ?

what an *** i feel rigt now, i didnt even see it.

[al4x]

personally I'd go manual however auto's are supposed to be pretty good off road. You do loose economy on road and they do tend to be pretty lazy in 4x4's as well

[2bangs]

Either, I used to do a fair bit of off roading and some of the lads in auto's didn't seem to have any bother, you have more control with the manual though, but if it's only for use on your shooting land then either will be fine, unless you shoot on really rough terrain.

[ProteuS]

To be honest, you should go with what you prefer.

I use both, and my personal preference is for manuals, as I prefer to choose what I'm doing. For town work though autos are quite nice. If I was running a winch challenge truck then i'd have an auto that can lock up in all gears.

[garygreengrass]

Having used both I would go for manual as it as already been said you do have a lot better control off road.

Edited July 29, 2010 by garygreengrass

[HooB]

I think it depends on the distance you have to travel on the road versus the time you spend off it.

 

Originally had a manual defender, but for some of the longer distance shoots I had, its became super painful, doing 50miles felt like 150! Once off road though it was spanking

 

Now got an auto-disco much easier on the road and almost as capable off.

[MITCHF]

I use a 300TDI Disco Auto.

Road and off road , plus green laning.

Goes anywhere a manual will, I'd like to hear what's meant by "more control".

 

 

Economy is a little less than manual, 2/3 mpg doesn't off set the relaxing road driving though

[ProteuS]

I would imagine more control is meant by picking a gear and keeping it. For extremely steep decents, auto boxes really aren't as good as a manual which you can get a lot more engine braking from. He may also mean the inability for most autos to have a second gear start for icy conditions to reduce the torque so that you do not just spin the wheels up (saying that our landcruiser has second start which can be extremely useful) Finally the box downshifts when it likes and also upshifts when it likes if allowed. If it decides to do it at the wrong time on ice / slippery surfaces you can just break traction and lose it.

 

Saying that autos also have advantages off road, they shift a whole lot quicker and don't put nearly as much strain on the drivetrain. As well as slow speed control is pretty good and you can easily use a bit of cadence braking to get traction to non spinning wheels.

 

It is all down to personal preference

[Lez325]

I prefer manual and Ive had both auto and stick

 

More control with the clutch on heavy going with a manual gear box ( obviusly NO Clutch control on an Auto)

 

Personal preference really

 

Les

[MITCHF]

I would imagine more control is meant by picking a gear and keeping it. For extremely steep decents, auto boxes really aren't as good as a manual which you can get a lot more engine braking from. He may also mean the inability for most autos to have a second gear start for icy conditions to reduce the torque so that you do not just spin the wheels up (saying that our landcruiser has second start which can be extremely useful) Finally the box downshifts when it likes and also upshifts when it likes if allowed. If it decides to do it at the wrong time on ice / slippery surfaces you can just break traction and lose it.

 

Saying that autos also have advantages off road, they shift a whole lot quicker and don't put nearly as much strain on the drivetrain. As well as slow speed control is pretty good and you can easily use a bit of cadence braking to get traction to non spinning wheels.

 

It is all down to personal preference

 

 

So with my autobox selecter having the 1 2 3 D option, I couldn't leave in 1 for a down hill decent and use engine braking like a manual ?

[luvbus]

So with my autobox selecter having the 1 2 3 D option, I couldn't leave in 1 for a down hill decent and use engine braking like a manual ?

 

 

Yes you can.

 

It has generally been my experience that the more serious the off roading a machine is expected to do, the more likely it is to be equipped with an auto or semi-auto transmission (think Pinzgauer, Unimog, Hagglund, Dump trucks, tractors, JCB's etc.).

 

An auto takes the guess work out of which gear to choose for a given situation (descents excepted) and you can stop & start going up inclines you wouldn't have a hope of doing with a manual.

 

With HDC on newer land rover products you don't even need to be in gear to go down hill under control. With terrain response an auto makes even more sense.

 

And me, I've got a............

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Manual D3!!!! :unsure:

[MITCHF]

Cheers for the support Luvbus :unsure:

I kind of knew the answer, been using Auto's off road for years.

I just having a little sport with the stick shifters

Edited July 29, 2010 by MITCHF

[shot shot]

if you're in the market for something fancy (read disco 3/4 or newish RR) then go auto, the HDC will have total control, and therefore will work properly

 

If you're more in the market for something oldschool, then go manual

[crosshair]

Had manuals for well over thirty years, mostly land rovers, discovery and a Range Rover.

And I travel some real rough ground so stick to Land Rover, currently using the new model

with Transit engine and six speed box, a lot quieter than the TD5.

[Highlander]

Well, I’m off road pretty much every day, likely do as many miles off road as on, so my preference is auto especially if I’m driving lamping etc.

 

Auto also gives you the manual option so best of both worlds when/if you need it!

[ProteuS]

So with my autobox selecter having the 1 2 3 D option, I couldn't leave in 1 for a down hill decent and use engine braking like a manual ?

 

For shallow declines, yes you could. For really steep stuff it would just run away. The torque convertor is a fluid coupling between the engine and the wheels, and thus can slip and allow the vehicle to gain speed rapidly (without correcting with some cadence braking of course)

 

and has been said modern cars have hdc, which takes away any requirement for skill in operation.

[Dave-G]

Auto lets you drive with one arm on the window ledge holding the rifle in the mirror gap ready for the quick aim and fire that often occurs if your in the right place at the right time. The "ready" position and some of my shots here as the vehicle comes to a halt can be seen in this clip:

 

[mayfly36]

Went for this is the end, manual 2.8 td ......irish import.

Oh and the dog is Irish as well.

[oakland rob]

Went for this is the end, manual 2.8 td ......irish import.

Oh and the dog is Irish as well.

 

 

Good Trucks but watch out for head gasket and water pump problems, nice and comfortable and more economical than an auto - good looking truck, Nice One..!

[mayfly36]

you wouldnt believe the condition off this motor. Looks like it was looked after for sure. Only 94000 miles for a 2000 plate motor, no rust anywhere, new glow plugs etc, not a sign off an oil leak, touch wood, well pleased so far.

[MITCHF]

Tidy motor