Frenchieboy Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 (edited) I've been running a cage trap in this location for a couple of weeks and at last the persistence has paid off. When i went to check it this morning (Just as I de every morning) I found a vixen in it. She was not best pleased with the situation but nevertheless she had to be dispatched quickly and humanely! Edit: As this video appears to have upset several members I have removed the link to it! Edited September 4, 2010 by Frenchieboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 nice work - did the round go straight through the floor as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 What's the point in videoing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 What's the point in videoing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 The animal is stuck in a cage and is terrified. Show some respect and just dispatch it. If you get some sort of 'pleasure' out of videoing and posting that sort of thing there's something seriously wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elby Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Is there any videos on youtube of paint drying, I'm waiting to go lamping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinytim38 Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 (edited) pointless......just giving antis something to winge about, I shoot them in cage traps regulaly but dont go videoing it Edited September 4, 2010 by tinytim38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the poacher Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 hey lads why so negative frenchie is just showing the way how to dispatch a fox the correct way . excellent fox control mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted September 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 The animal is stuck in a cage and is terrified. Show some respect and just dispatch it. If you get some sort of 'pleasure' out of videoing and posting that sort of thing there's something seriously wrong. I don't understand what the problem is! You say show some respect and dispatch it! That is exactly what the video shows, the fact that I dispatched it quickly, cleanly and humanely - I would say that showed respect! If you and the other moderators think that it is in bad taste or that there is "something seriously wrong" with me then by all means remove it, I am not going to get involved in an argument with you about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 hey lads why so negative frenchie is just showing the way how to dispatch a fox the correct way . excellent fox control mate Yeah because the forum is full of people who wouldn't know how to point a gun at fox in a cage and pull the trigger. Must take a while to master it. In my view it's in extremely bad taste. But by all means leave it up for the members who don't get out much and give them time to knock one out behind their keyboards. I said my piece and I'll leave it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elby Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 hey lads why so negative frenchie is just showing the way how to dispatch a fox the correct way . excellent fox control mate Actually that is far from the correct way of doing it, if that bullt ricochet's he could be in a lot of trouble. The correct way is to sharpen a stick, put it in the cage and when Charles bites on it shove the stick all the way home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harv Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 I don't understand what the problem is! You say show some respect and dispatch it! That is exactly what the video shows, the fact that I dispatched it quickly, cleanly and humanely - I would say that showed respect!If you and the other moderators think that it is in bad taste or that there is "something seriously wrong" with me then by all means remove it, I am not going to get involved in an argument with you about it! so how long did it take to set the camera up etc instead of dealing with the job in hand, ,does your certificate conditions have the .17 for humane dispatch of fox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted September 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 I give up, it seems that some people can not do right for doing wrong. As for shoving a sharp stick all the way down a foxes throat to kill it I would think that is a very inhumane way to dispatch one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elby Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 I give up, it seems that some people can not do right for doing wrong.As for shoving a sharp stick all the way down a foxes throat to kill it I would think that is a very inhumane way to dispatch one! I'm joking mate, I shoot loads with my .22 trapped. I do think the best way though is to run them over in the cage using a tractor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted September 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 I'm joking mate, I shoot loads with my .22 trapped.I do think the best way though is to run them over in the cage using a tractor That being the case I appologise if I took your "comment" the wrong way, I thought you were being serious. Thank God you clarified that or it could have been "Tin Hat Time"! In reply to Harv - It takes me less than a few seconds to clip the camcorder on to my rifle, in fact I can do it just as quickly as I can load the magazine. Also a condition on my FAC states: The shooting of vermin, in connection with the management of an estate, any other wildlife! I do have a .222 which I use for shooting foxes but I believe that to use that to dispatch a fox in a cage trap would be one of the most irresponsible and dangerous things I could do! However, as I did not think that this would cause so many problems for so many members I am going to delete the link to the video so that will be the end of it, if I offended people then I will appologise even though I do not think that I did anything wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Just saw the vid and thought it was a quick and clean end Can't see the problem here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Cant see the problem either? This is a hunting website and if people are offended then they shouldnt watch it! Simples! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 the problem is whether in sorting the video out it caused any more unnecessary suffering to the animal, I'm usually pro your videos Frenchie but in this case its probably not needed. If people can't work out how to put down a fox in a trap they need their guns taken away. Obviously you've pulled it from here and I hope you don't take offence but there is a big difference to showing the shooting of wild free animals to terrified ones in traps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
game_boy Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 I watched the video, no issues with it & not offended by it just puzzled as to why you would want to film it. Although it is not illegal how you have dispatched the fox nor videoing the process - I do feel that if any FLO's and the Police were aware of your exploits with the camera and the posting of them on the WorldWideWeb and public forum - a few eyebrows and concerns would be raised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 I was going to say something here, in fact I wrote quite a bit. Then, surprisingly for me I deleted it. Not seen the vid and don't want to. I like to see much of what you film but this is not one of your better ideas matey is all I'll say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 What a lot of fuss about nothing. The destruction of the fox was swift and humane. Think 'anti's' just as likely to have a problem with mass slaughter of 100+ pigeons where the poster is patted on the back. Some of the bloody pictures are more likely to upset people. Mountain out of molehill springs to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbonrocket Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 I was going to say something here, in fact I wrote quite a bit. Then, surprisingly for me I deleted it. Not seen the vid and don't want to. I like to see much of what you film but this is not one of your better ideas matey is all I'll say. You have now missed a very clean instant kill of a fox. No mess, blood, thrashing around. Thut and collapse. Maybe you should watch it before making your judgement. Thats all I will say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 Excellent work there Frenchie.After the uproar over the lad drowning the squirrell in the cage trap,you have shown the best way to dispatch a fox humanely when trapped.Cant understand why so many are complaining,maybe no soaps on tv tonight.Keep up the vids fella,i for one wont whinge like a woman.Apologies to any woman oot there that dont whinge.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted September 5, 2010 Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 I watched the video, no issues with it & not offended by it just puzzled as to why you would want to film it. Although it is not illegal how you have dispatched the fox nor videoing the process - I do feel that if any FLO's and the Police were aware of your exploits with the camera and the posting of them on the WorldWideWeb and public forum - a few eyebrows and concerns would be raised. Your comment that Flos and the plod would be interesteed in his exploits is very funny.What they will watch is an educational clip on how to humanely dispatch a fox caught in a live cage trap.If he drowned it,poured lighter fluid on it and then started doing a war dance and chanting exerts from the bible backwards naked and wearing 6 inch stillettos whilst necking gallons of scrumpy jack,they might,just might,have something to say about it.Dont get any ideas now Frenchie,as i have copyright on that idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted September 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2010 Your comment that Flos and the plod would be interesteed in his exploits is very funny.What they will watch is an educational clip on how to humanely dispatch a fox caught in a live cage trap.If he drowned it,poured lighter fluid on it and then started doing a war dance and chanting exerts from the bible backwards naked and wearing 6 inch stillettos whilst necking gallons of scrumpy jack,they might,just might,have something to say about it.Dont get any ideas now Frenchie,as i have copyright on that idea. I had thought about a few of those ideas Dave mate but when I chatted to the wife about them she put her foot down, especially when it came to me dancing around naked wearing 6 inch stilettoes as she thinks I would fall over and breal my silly neck even if it did earn us £250 from "You've Been Framed"! All joking aside, as someone has said "Mountain out of a mole hill" comes to mind (In my opinion), especially when you consider the fact that this is a SHOOTING FORUM which is used to openly discuss (And show) the SHOOTING and KILLING of LIVE QUARRY (Both vermin and game). Surely if anyone is offended by a clip of a fox being safely, properly, humanely and quickly dispatched then this might not be the best forum for them to be viewing. As for the comment about FLOs seeing the clip, what do they think that they are issuing FACs for, so that people can buy the most expencive rifle there is to hang on their wall for others to admire, NO, they are issuing FACs for people to get rifles to follow their sport which in many cases involves the "Culling" and "Killing" of live quarry (Except of course in the case of target shooters). Maybe someone would like to explain to me what the difference is to the "Antis" between the video that I produced showing that I can dispatch a live animal quickly, cleanly, humanely and properly so as not to cause any unavoidable suffering, using an appropriate rifle which offered an instant and respectful death to the fox (rather than using an air fifle as some have suggested at different times on this forum) or a video or series of photos that shows dozens (If not hundreds) of pigeons or rabbits being shot (Some not all that cleanly or humanely in the case of a few videos that are doing the rounds on Youtube)? How about the videos which some of our highly respected members have produced and posted on this forum showing them shooting and killing deer, (Very efficiently and humanely I might add), are they not going to upset the "antis" even though they show extremely good marksmanship and respect for the quarry or is there a difference between say a deer and a fox? What about all of the photos of multiple kills of foxes where the photo shows foxes, in some cases up to 5 or 6 dead foxes lined up at a time, (which I personally respect the shooter for being able to do and will always say so on open forum) even though in some cases some of the foxes are unavoidably but clearly showing signs of open wounds and varying amounts of blood from being shot, or the photos of hundreds of crows, pigeons or rabbits, are the "Antis" surposed to say "Well that's OK because we did not see how they were killed so we will not be offended"? I think not! Well there we have it, I have read all of the comments and I put my side of it forwards. This is, when all is said and done a shooting forum, a place where you would expect to see videos and photos of "live quarry" being shot and killed so is it OK for some members to post them but not for other to. You tell me because it is no skin off my nose to not bother posting any more videos or photos in the hope that they might educate, help or advise a few of the less experienced members on how to do things right. I will await your answers regardles of weather they are positive of nagative a (As long as you justify them without being silly and keying my motor like some clown did the other week). color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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