24230 Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 we posted a topic WHEAT STUBBLE the other day. Took Tom again on Monday afternoon on a field of beans that were cut last week, with the wind in our favor we finished up with 115 woodys picked, Tom is back at school now so its weekends from now on for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 good shooting and well done, i had a 3 bean fields cut on saturday, so going out next saturday and have a go, hope there about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24230 Posted September 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 We will be out this weekend again, lots and lots of young birds around, 70% of our last few bags were full of young birds, only thing is cant give pigeons away around here had to dispose of 60 today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 We will be out this weekend again, lots and lots of young birds around, 70% of our last few bags were full of young birds, only thing is cant give pigeons away around here had to dispose of 60 today. I suggest that if you have no use for the pigeons then you shouldn't shoot them in the first place. Such a waste! What's wrong with eating them yourself?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 I suggest that if you have no use for the pigeons then you shouldn't shoot them in the first place. Such a waste!What's wrong with eating them yourself?! 60 pigeons are worth about £12 and my dealer is about an hours drive away What you say is right in a perfect world but unless you are shooting hundreds at a time the cost of fuel to take them to a game dealer just isn't worth it and no-one wants to eat them every day. Even giving them away isn't easy. If you are getting quite a few over an extended period sometimes you just have to chuck in the towel and leave them for the foxes, badgers etc. We shoot them for sport and then to protect the crop and whilst it is wasteful to dump them, to say they shouldn't be shot in the first place is missing the point of why we shoot them at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 i wouldn;t shoot that many if i knew they would be wasted;i always consider before i shoot have i enough room in the freezer or can i get to the game dealer if i get a big bag.just the way i was tought.. to respect and not waste the birds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 i wouldn;t shoot that many if i knew they would be wasted;i always consider before i shoot have i enough room in the freezer or can i get to the game dealer if i get a big bag.just the way i was tought.. to respect and not waste the birds. Then you may not be much use to that particular farmer. I agree in a perfect world all shot birds would be used but the main purpose of the exercise is to keep the vermin and damage that it does down to acceptable levels. Let's not forget too that the many hot days we have just had will do little to help sun baked and flyblown carcases to remain saleable when they come off the field. I personally have shot a few hundred in dribs and drabs over the last couple of months. I've eaten some, frozen some crowns, given away what I can and used some as decoys. There comes a point where small amounts aren't worth the bother but if anyone wants to drive their holier than thou selves to my front door I would be glad to pass them on to you FOC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Then you may not be much use to that particular farmer. doubt that very much.. and my first reply was to 24230 in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24230 Posted September 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 (edited) I suggest that if you have no use for the pigeons then you shouldn't shoot them in the first place. Such a waste!What's wrong with eating them yourself?! Motty In the farming world we have no time for people that just shoot a few to eat, when you have just drilled over 100 acers of rape next to 80 acers of cut beans that means loads of pest pigeon not just one for the pot, it then become a matter of cost . Edited September 8, 2010 by 24230 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24230 Posted September 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 i wouldn;t shoot that many if i knew they would be wasted;i always consider before i shoot have i enough room in the freezer or can i get to the game dealer if i get a big bag.just the way i was tought.. to respect and not waste the birds. Can I refer you to the reply I just sent to Motty. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24230 Posted September 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Can I refer you to the reply I just sent to Motty. Thanks Can I also say that after a couple of hours in the hide they soon get fly blown, I eat a few but give lots away so you need to be quick, if no one bothers to collect them its a grave for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tignme Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Pound shops have small meshed laundry bags that holsd twenty odd birds and keep the flys off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wids Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 I see both sides of the coin here - but iv been brought up to not waste what you have shot and I work on the policy that if my bag is 20 and under ill see to them myself (breast/crown/pluck) and use/give away as it doesnt take that much time. Bags over this ill take to the dealers which is an hours round trip - now this is on no grounds to do with financial gains but simply I dont want to waste them and at least they are put to some good this way and it saves me the hassle of taking ages doing them myself. Iv been caught cold the odd times tho when iv thought it not warm enough for flyblow and forgot some bags to pop them in as I shoot them and had to waste them unfortunatly as just covered... Learnt from this tho! People arguing that crop protection comes 1st well it does yes - but its not alot to ask to drop them at a game dealers if you cant deal with the numbers yourself and I find you dont get that niggle inside that you have wasted some good game by having to dump them (Which just looks and smells awful!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 (edited) MottyIn the farming world we have no time for people that just shoot a few to eat, when you have just drilled over 100 acers of rape next to 80 acers of cut beans that means loads of pest pigeon not just one for the pot, it then become a matter of cost . So far this year i've shot over 2100 pigeons. I've only disposed of a handful of those because they have been used as decoys several times. If i couldn't sell pigeons to a game dealer or get rid of them some other way, then i wouldn't shoot as many. And also, i've not had one bird rejected fom the game dealer for being fly blown or for being 'cooked' due to the hot weather. I try to take care of the bag. Edited September 9, 2010 by motty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24230 Posted September 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Any shooter that knocks my door asking ''can we shoot your pigeon'' will be asked to shoot them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted September 11, 2010 Report Share Posted September 11, 2010 Any shooter that knocks my door asking ''can we shoot your pigeon'' will be asked to shoot them all. Fair enough. But it would be nice if the bags were put to good use after they are shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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