chrispti Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 If my shotgun is shooting to the right, do I need left or right cast to straighten it up Ta Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Simplest solution is to move the target slightly to the left. Seriously though. If, as a right handed shooter using a gun with right hand cast ( cast on, as opposed to cast off) and you believe the gun is shooting to the right you need to check your eye dominance before you do anything. Of the many scenarios likely to cause this aberration, one might be that with a gun set up as above, your left eye is taking over. Try poking yourself in the left eye,(or closing it) before firing a few test shots and see what effect this has on pattern placement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 If my shotgun is shooting to the right, do I need left or right cast to straighten it up Ta Chris Chris, sadly its not quite so simple. The gun will shoot straight on its own. You need first to test whether you have a left master eye (assuming you are right Handed. You do this by sighting through your finger at a distant object like a telegraph pole, both eyes open. Close your left eye, is the pole still in line? If so you have a right master eye and all is well. If it moves out of alighnment you have a left master eye and you will either have to close your left eye or get an 'across eye stock' . It could simply be that your mount is wrong. Practise mounting your gun at a spot on the wall for 10 mins a day until it comes up naturally on target. ( that means you can see about a 1/4 to an 1/8 " of rib over the breech. Then practise swinging the gun whilst retaining the sight on a horizontal plane, as if following a bird in flight. Alternatively a DVD called Game shooting with Ken Davies will give you some very useful instruction. If you are still missing I suggest you get a lesson - £50 quid well spent ! Cheers and good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 ....or alternatively, only shoot left to right crossers. Whats inspired this crisis of confidence? You rarely miss anything. (much to my annoyance!) With your last decent bag of pigeon running to 211 you need to stop analysing what you do and just get on with it. Incidentally, there is a tendency for a right handed shooter with a cast on gun to print patterns slightly to the right of centre on a pattern plate if thats what you`ve been shooting at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 If my shotgun is shooting to the right, do I need left or right cast to straighten it up Ta Chris If you think you may be left eye dominant, wear a pair of sunglasses and smear a little vaseline on the left lens it works wonders. This is not a joke. bakerboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJT Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Got a blow lamp and a bench vice if you want to tweak the barrels left a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromlc Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 (edited) . Edited November 20, 2010 by retromlc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 ....or alternatively, only shoot left to right crossers. Whats inspired this crisis of confidence? You rarely miss anything. (much to my annoyance!) With your last decent bag of pigeon running to 211 you need to stop analysing what you do and just get on with it. Incidentally, there is a tendency for a right handed shooter with a cast on gun to print patterns slightly to the right of centre on a pattern plate if thats what you`ve been shooting at. And to my annoyance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted October 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 (edited) but he did use 1000 carts to achieve it Almost ............................................350 I have no eye dominance issues either. The gun was shooting ok untill I fitted a comb raiser, which I needed to bring the pattern up to where I like it. I think, due to the thickness (width) of the raiser, it has also moved my head out (away) a few ml, from the stock . My confusion is which way I need to cast the stock to re-align it By the way, its a semi auto currently fitted with a neutral shim Edited October 6, 2010 by chrispti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted October 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Thanks for SOME of the replies though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COACH Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Hang on, this combe raiser, is it one of those usually grey stick on flat sponge type ones ? If it is, that`s what`s doing it. The reason is your face is now five mm away from the stock. SIMPLES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted October 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Hang on, this combe raiser, is it one of those usually grey stick on flat sponge type ones ?If it is, that`s what`s doing it. The reason is your face is now five mm away from the stock. SIMPLES. No its not mate, its a rubber one. I think this could be the problem though, so I will have to just try the other shims and see what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Get a gun fitting lesson either with a pro coach or gun fitter (ideally both on an actual ground), it may be the cast or LOP or something else throwing your aim off. http://www.####.co.uk/index.htm arent to far from you well worth a contacting for a proper fitting dennis dis a stunning job on my grandfather SxS so i caould use it... i go shooting with dennis of #### and he is a great man, al ways willing to help.great gun smith done my guns up great.and a great shot takes pigeons from way out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COACH Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Ah! those need to be exactly the same width and shape as the original stock. Some are bulkier than the original stock causing the same problem as the sponge one. Whats the gun. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted October 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Ah! those need to be exactly the same width and shape as the original stock. Some are bulkier than the original stock causing the same problem as the sponge one.Whats the gun. ? Browning Maxus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shropshire_Lad Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 So the gun has a neutral shim, does this mean it has no cast? so as a right hand/right eye shot with a comb raiser taking off cast, making it cast on should it not shoot to the left for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COACH Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Ah! narrow stock then. Take the combe raiser off. Play around a bit more with the shims, you should be able to bring it right up for you, if not get some more shims so you can. Before you do though, have another go at the pattern plate and this time shut your left eye, I take it your right shouldered. See if it makes any difference. If it does you have a bit of middle vision in that case get back to me and we can cure that problem. Many people think they have no eye dominance but in fact they do but it`s slight and can be only discoverd by a good coach or gun fitter maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted October 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Ah! narrow stock then. Take the combe raiser off.Play around a bit more with the shims, you should be able to bring it right up for you, if not get some more shims so you can. Before you do though, have another go at the pattern plate and this time shut your left eye, I take it your right shouldered. See if it makes any difference. If it does you have a bit of middle vision in that case get back to me and we can cure that problem. Many people think they have no eye dominance but in fact they do but it`s slight and can be only discoverd by a good coach or gun fitter maybe. If I take the raiser off, I look into the back of the action, ie; shoot way to low It wont go up any more and Im not aware of any other shims that are available other than the ones already provided I will have another play on the plate, and try the left and right shims and see what affect they have before I do anything else Thank you for you help and advice though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COACH Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 You should be able to buy more shims, you can with most semi`s unless it`s a new thing with the Maxus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJT Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 One of these should do the trick http://www.ukgunroom.com/files/s_2007_0115julie0004.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted October 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 I will loook into it Coach, cheers. I dont suppose if anyone does know if extra shims are available for the Maxus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted October 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Thats just the job Mjt How much do you want for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyb79 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Chrispti, did you ever find out about extra shims for the Maxus? I've got the No1 shim installed on my gun which raises the comb slightly, but I could do with adding another one of the same height to bring the comb up to where I like it. Ta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted November 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Chrispti, did you ever find out about extra shims for the Maxus? I've got the No1 shim installed on my gun which raises the comb slightly, but I could do with adding another one of the same height to bring the comb up to where I like it. Ta No joy Im afraid mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyb79 Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 I've had a result today after much searching around and a few calls. Browning do sell additional shims, but only in the raise,lower and neutral variants, and you need to add extra shims to get the fit you want. Chris Potter Country Sports in Tunbridge Wells have said that they should be able to order me another shim, and the Browning Owners club reckon it'll be around £15. If you email Steve at Chris Potter, he should be able to order what you need. All the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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