TX Sniper Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 the old man has just rang me and said that the second barrel did not fire on my less than 3 weeks old beretta sp 20g. a friend of mine had a similer problem with his when it was new, is it st that the recoil berell selector thingy is new and needs wearing in or is it something more serious. i used it last sat and it was fine so iam a bit worried. i did fit a slightly longer but pad to it last sat, could that be the problem. any help appreciated. cheers jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenbears10 Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 If it is only 3 weeks old get it back to the shop mate it is well under guarantee (but won't be if you try and fix it yourself). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TX Sniper Posted January 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 the shop i got it from is f in miles away from me so i might put soem more rounds through and see if it settles down, if it doesnt ill send it back. im hoping its just because its new, as afore mentioned my mate had the same roblem but his is fine now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenbears10 Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 ok. I've never had a brand new gun so I can't comment if it is settling in or not. Hope it works out should be a nice gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Hi mate, I've had this problem on two of my guns in the past 6 months. One of them the firing pin had broken- old s/s. The other one which was a beretta SP albeit in 12 bore, the problem was down to the switch between barrels- as it's only a single trigger what was wrong is that you had to completely release your finger from the trigger and then pull again, they were able to fix this, I bought 2nd hand from Greenfields who sorted it out no problems and knew what it was instantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TX Sniper Posted January 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 fairll be usin it on sat game shooting so if it gives me any grief il give the shop a buz. you had a good season teal, i suppose you have been off grouse shooting with the gentry again p.s tenbears like the highlander, nice loking gun mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 TX the pad could be the key, maybe The second barrel relies on the recoil, I have never heard of it before but just maybe it has made enough differnec for it to not fire - sounds unlikely but you never know. Also.. My sons 20bore has had similar problem and turned out to be him not releasing the trigger after the first shot all the time, he is a compleet novice so that isn't unheard of. I don't how experienced your dad is so I can't comment on that I have had a couple of new Beretta's, and apart from being a bit stiff they didn't need any shooting in, so if it persists get it back to them, I would ring them anyway so they have a log of the problem in case you need to take it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TX Sniper Posted January 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 my dad has been shooting for about 20 years but saying that he may not be releasing the trigger. he is a different build t me and maybe the way he mounts the gun as it is longer doesnt alow the recoil to hit the adjuster properly. i will ring him later and see if it has happened again. cheers jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenbears10 Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 p.s tenbears like the highlander, nice loking gun mate. thanks. I've had it a year now and I really like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 I had a similar problem with my Beretta and it was down to lack of recoil. In my case its was due to heavy clothing, but I suspect your recoil pad may be to blame. A 20 bore shouldn't need a recoil pad.........well, not if its being fired by a man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bindi Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 (edited) I have a 20g Silver Pigeon so here goes with things to try. First, ensure that your dad's finger comes right off the trigger between shots as the second barrell won't arm if you don't. Use the barrel selector to select the top barrel first, 2 dots on the selector like this : () and see if it works that way round. Then swap back and see how it goes. If either of these don;t work, then you can return the gun to ANY beretta dealer near you, and they will repair under warranty or send back to original shop for attention/repair or replacement, but you should make your preference clear. Don't be tempted to meddle yourself though as you WILL invalidate the warranty. Problems with Beretta's are rare as they are well tested in the factory before shipping so try the above before sending back. EDIT: it should only take a small amount of recoil to activate, I use a light load (24gramme cartridges) and it works fine, everytime, even with thick clothing. For info i have a wooden butt plate on mine now) Edited January 25, 2006 by bindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TX Sniper Posted January 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 the butplate is the one which it comes with, i fitted it because i need the extra length so it fits better. so i can have the gun replaced if needed. i'll see how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 TX most of the shooters i run with shoot bottom barrel first , is this the case with you , is it the top barrel not setting or the bottom ??. the other thing to check , make sure the gun is being held and not floating . or take it back Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 A mate of mine recently bought a brand new 12b 686 (or 687, I'm not sure). He had this happen to him a couple of times whilst shooting clays. The chap in the shooting ground gun shop said it was probably due to the gun wearing in and that it should sort itself out soon. I will ask him if it has got better next time I see him andd let you know. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 i know someone who has a custom made berreta, he flew out to italy to have it fitted, and watched it being worked on. when it got back here, it wouldnt fire 2nd barrel taken to potters (luckily round the corner from him) numerous emails exhanged (this gun cost him upwards of £5500) their solution, one of the pins through the action needed adjusting (put in berreta terms, this required a knock with a centre punch and hammer!) you can imagine how impressed the guy was when all this happened. however now it functions flawlessly and is one VERY nice gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TX Sniper Posted January 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 cheers guys, i must commend you all for the help. its nice being part of a forum where you receive such helpful and friendly advice from knowledgable shooters. i will let you know how i get on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invector Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 This fault nearly always occurs when you don`t release pressure on the trigger before the second shot. If you can fire one barrel, then wait until you fire the second, as a test, you will probably find it`s OK. Try in sequence between the barrels. Worth a few wasted cartridges, just for peace of mind. Of course you could try over some clays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybk Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 very interesting post , as my sons franchi 20b had the same problem last weekend, which is also new , seemed to settle down after a few clays , andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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