China halts rare earth exports to U.S, Europe.

[Dr_Scholl]

http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/business/ne...0bu068000c.html

[manxman2]

why do you think the yanks are still in afghanistan really, apart from the pipeline plans.

 

The caspian sea crude turned out to be a lower grade than was anticipated, but still all is not lost there, however the yanks have known for over 20 years, and kept secret until someone else recently spilt the beans on the geological surveys conducted that show the rare earth minerals under afghani soil and mountains.

Hundreds of billions of pounds worth of allsorts.

I will post links when i have time to root them out.

Edited October 20, 2010 by manxman2

[Paddy Galore!]

Forgive me, i'm an imbecile, what's in this rare earth then? cos i've got loads in the back garden

[CZ550Kevlar]

They are probably ****** because the UK has stopped financial aid to China.

[jacksdad]

Rare earths are the "iums" found it tiny quantities (in mining terms!) that are used to make loads of stuff that we use, mainly electronics, chips etc., coatings for lenses (scopes!) and other specialist coatings, the production of top quality alloys, specialist bombs, bullets and guidance systems,and of course the little magnets that can pick up unreal amounts of weight

As China just happens to be sitting on the majority of it, and are becoming the Big Boys of worldwide hi-tech production, they are simply 'losing' orders, delaying deliveries or just refusing to supply anybody.

They have all but boycotted Japan as well, not sure why but the reason given is relativley trivial, but means China could make massive amounts of dosh and also increase its profile as a leader.

One good thing, the recycled stuff over here is now worth a fortune as demand outstrips supply I get around £80 for ONE used cat, worn out as well, as the elements still exist inside them and can be recovered, even car batteries are in demand, I get £3 each, used to be 50p if you could find someone to even take them

[manxman2]

why do you think the yanks are still in afghanistan really, apart from the pipeline plans.

 

The caspian sea crude turned out to be a lower grade than was anticipated, but still all is not lost there, however the yanks have known for over 20 years, and kept secret until someone else recently spilt the beans on the geological surveys conducted that show the rare earth minerals under afghani soil and mountains.

Hundreds of billions of pounds worth of allsorts.

I will post links when i have time to root them out.

 

 

 

Afghan Abundance

 

The Preliminary Non-Fuel Mineral Resource Assessment of Afghanistan‎ in 2007 was based on US and Afghan geological surveys and confirmed a treasure trove of minerals and precious stones.

 

“Afghanistan has abundant mineral resources, including known deposits of copper, iron, ‎barite, sulfur, talc, chromium, magnesium, salt, mica, marble, rubies, emerald, lapis lazuli, ‎asbestos, nickel, mercury, gold and silver, lead, zinc, fluorspar, bauxite, beryllium, and ‎lithium.”

 

And they are the worlds largest deposits of lithium.

 

Thats what working class british and american cannon fodder are dying for, the above plus below.

 

In a report last year, the U.S. State Department estimated that the Caspian

region's oil reserves of 178 billion barrels, . ...

 

And the pipe-line its gonna flow thru.

Edited October 20, 2010 by manxman2

[Dr_Scholl]

Rare earths are the "iums" found it tiny quantities (in mining terms!) that are used to make loads of stuff that we use, mainly electronics, chips etc., coatings for lenses (scopes!) and other specialist coatings, the production of top quality alloys, specialist bombs, bullets and guidance systems,and of course the little magnets that can pick up unreal amounts of weight

As China just happens to be sitting on the majority of it, and are becoming the Big Boys of worldwide hi-tech production, they are simply 'losing' orders, delaying deliveries or just refusing to supply anybody.

They have all but boycotted Japan as well, not sure why but the reason given is relativley trivial, but means China could make massive amounts of dosh and also increase its profile as a leader.

One good thing, the recycled stuff over here is now worth a fortune as demand outstrips supply I get around £80 for ONE used cat, worn out as well, as the elements still exist inside them and can be recovered, even car batteries are in demand, I get £3 each, used to be 50p if you could find someone to even take them

 

If they don't think we should have those rare earth minerals, then I don't think they need any oil imports. Blockade the shipping routes going into China and see how well their economy does when half of their oil supply disappears overnight.

[chris64]

Most of our scrap metal goes to china,so if we stop that aswell does that mean we get back a steel industry that make real quolity steel.

[the running man]

If the troops were in Afghanistan for minerals then I think in this economic climate the allies would be desperate for those minerals,ie they would be pouring troops and miners into that country, I see neither at the moment. And if explained to the taliban they would be quids in,and livin in mansions with pools tv etc I wager hostility would ease off somewhat very quickly. So if we are there for raping its natural resources then we are movin pretty slow I would say.

[Dr_Scholl]

If the troops were in Afghanistan for minerals then I think in this economic climate the allies would be desperate for those minerals,ie they would be pouring troops and miners into that country, I see neither at the moment. And if explained to the taliban they would be quids in,and livin in mansions with pools tv etc I wager hostility would ease off somewhat very quickly. So if we are there for raping its natural resources then we are movin pretty slow I would say.

 

Haven't you heard? The U.S is an evil empire trying to take over the world.

[Zapp]

Some posts have been removed from this thread. If you want to put a point across then do so without name calling please.

[death from below]

Some posts have been removed from this thread. If you want to put a point across then do so without name calling please.

 

Stinky winky bum bum, big nose poo face

[the running man]

yes mate I read it in my copy of islam today,or was it al jazeera,or suicide bomber monthly. ,I blame ure culture for most of the uk and euro social problems,with ure gansta rebel,I'm not doing it,I'm so special attitude that seems to have penatrated every level of what was, a decent law abiding society. we now have children murdering each other in this country for no reason other than American culture filtering in through tv,music,news and factual programs and games tells them its cool. So yes in a way ure taking over! The us has its good points too,I will concede.

[UKPoacher]

Let's face it, we're not in Afghanistan to prevent terrorism in the UK as Bliar and his cronies insisted. The Caspian oil was major motive and the reason we are moving so slow in reaping mineral and oil benefits is that as others have found out, Afghanistan is not an easy country to defeat.

 

Catalytic convertors are fetching silly money dead or alive. It is the new crime wave. More lucrative than knicking lead flashing.

[Paddy Galore!]

Thanks jacksdad for clearing that one up

[the running man]

Let's face it, we're not in Afghanistan to prevent terrorism in the UK as Bliar and his cronies insisted. The Caspian oil was major motive and the reason we are moving so slow in reaping mineral and oil benefits is that as others have found out, Afghanistan is not an easy country to defeat.Catalytic convertors are fetching silly money dead or alive. It is the new crime wave. More lucrative than knicking lead flashing.

then why arenet they pouring in troops to sort it out then?

[UKPoacher]

then why arenet they pouring in troops to sort it out then?

 

Because they have no more to send. Some countries have realised the futility of this campaign and are pulling their troops out leaving a bigger burden for the others to fill.

 

Afghanistan needs boots on the ground, not air power and let's face it; If Russia couldn't gaffer them with all their manpower and rather more brutal methods we ain't going to succeed cosying up to them.

[Dr_Scholl]

Because they have no more to send. Some countries have realised the futility of this campaign and are pulling their troops out leaving a bigger burden for the others to fill.

 

Afghanistan needs boots on the ground, not air power and let's face it; If Russia couldn't gaffer them with all their manpower and rather more brutal methods we ain't going to succeed cosying up to them.

 

Trust me, the U.S military has no shortage of troops these days. The Great Recession was the best thing that could've happened for them.

[the running man]

Because they have no more to send. Some countries have realised the futility of this campaign and are pulling their troops out leaving a bigger burden for the others to fill.

 

Afghanistan needs boots on the ground, not air power and let's face it; If Russia couldn't gaffer them with all their manpower and rather more brutal methods we ain't going to succeed cosying up to them.

so where's all the troops from iraq? I know a few are left but the bulk are out,are they now not able to go to Afghanistan? You're previous post you said that they can't go mining yet as they have to sort out the taliban,then u say there's no more troops,I and dr schnoll have pointed out there are. I put it to u sir that you're mining theory is not a full loaf. Let me tell you the buzz words that some military hierarchy use when mentioning troops in afghanistan ......token gesture,and weapons testing. EDIT,changed all military to some military,sorry bout that. Edited October 22, 2010 by the running man

[Zapp]

Let me tell you the buzz words that all military hierarchy use when mentioning troops in afghanistan......token gesture,and weapons testing.

 

Really? I have never heard any military hierarchy use either phrase or even allude to such sentiments, and I spend all day every day with them at work.

[the running man]

Really? I have never heard any military hierarchy use either phrase or even allude to such sentiments, and I spend all day every day with them at work.

then either we move in different circles,or you just don't hear what I do. Either way were not coming out of Afghanistan for some considerable time yet.

[Zapp]

then either we move in different circles,or you just don't hear what I do.

 

I suppose that must be the case. Nobody I deal with would ever describe what they go and do out there as a token gesture.

[the running man]

I suppose that must be the case. Nobody I deal with would ever describe what they go and do out there as a token gesture.

token gesture,zapp is a reference to the actual troop numbers in that country,not the job they do.

[Zapp]

token gesture,zapp is a reference to the actual troop numbers in that country,not the job they do.

 

I wasnt talking on an individual basis. My 2p is that the number of troops out there has more to do with politics, the size of our armed forces and money than anything else.

[the running man]

I wasnt talking on an individual basis. My 2p is that the number of troops out there has more to do with politics, the size of our armed forces and money than anything else.

exactly