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Dear All,

 

I'd like some opinions if possible please.

 

My family is actively against hunting or shooting. I'm of the opinion myself that, if its for the pot and humane, its OK! I'm against doing it for sake, but for the pot.......

 

I've got a disability which in a limited way effects my mobility.

I can't carry anything to heavy.

 

I'm looking for a shotgun to use, preferably a side-by-side.

 

My prefered qauries are below:

 

1. Pheasents

2. Pidgeons

3. Ducks

4. Grouse

5. Goose

6. Crows

7. Rabbits

8. Hares

9. Deer

 

Can you suggest any guns? Weight is an issue, I need it to be reasonably light. Maybe even a youth model.

 

Anyone got any ideas for a shotgun and a rifle (for the deer)?

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For most of the quarry you've mentioned, a 12 gauge semi -auto should suit your needs. They are light, and produce less recoil that a sbs or o/u.

For Deer? Have you any experience in centrefire rifle shooting? If not, then I doubt very much that you would get said rifle on your first application.

But, for most of the deer, a .243 would be ample for your needs.

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Can you suggest any guns? Weight is an issue, I need it to be reasonably light. Maybe even a youth model.

 

Anyone got any ideas for a shotgun and a rifle (for the deer)?

 

Hi Mark welcome,

 

Lightest shotgun (12/10g) on the market is is the Frachi Fast Pro http://www.franchi.com/Product/index.asp?ID=709 unfortunately the UK importers only bring in the slightly heavier model http://www.franchi.com/Product/index.asp?ID=723 Out of interest if you have mobility issues how are you going to shoot game? Best to start off on clays first. SxS are lighter than most O/U but you may struggle with the recoil, have your fired a 12g yet?

Frachi Falconet O/U is also 2.45kg but likely to recoil more than a semi

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HDAV,

 

The mobility is related to my CP isn't too serious. It's hard to describe, basically I can't put my right foot completely to the floor.

My left side is my stronger side.

Might be under-estimating my ability with the weight, always seem to be to cautious.......

I'm used to handling heavy stuff as I'm a DJ so.......

 

I've done clays before at a local grounds with a friend. Can't remember what type of shotgun I borrowed from them. Should I give them a call maybe?

 

What got me into game was two reasons.

 

1. I enjoyed doing the clays.

 

2. I love to cook and really enjoy meat. What better way to get fresh produce than to shoot and kill it yourself?

 

My parents don't agree, but as I said before, if its for the pot.....

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A lighter gun will in general produce more recoil, especially as you will need to be using punchier loads for live quarry. I can vouch for what HDAV said because I own a Franchi Falconet and it kicks like a mule with heavy loads in it. I use 21gm loads in it for clays!

 

The trade-off will be a heavier semi-auto with lot less recoil. If you are 'rough' shooting a semi is perfectly fine, however as Browning said a semi on an organised game shoot would be looked down on. Mind you quite a lot of things can be looked down on on certain types of shooting.

 

Do you have anywhere to actually shoot yet?

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Dear All,

 

I'd like some opinions if possible please.

 

My family is actively against hunting or shooting. I'm of the opinion myself that, if its for the pot and humane, its OK! I'm against doing it for sake, but for the pot.......

 

I've got a disability which in a limited way effects my mobility.

I can't carry anything to heavy.

 

I'm looking for a shotgun to use, preferably a side-by-side.

 

My prefered qauries are below:

 

1. Pheasents

2. Pidgeons

3. Ducks

4. Grouse

5. Goose

6. Crows

7. Rabbits

8. Hares

9. Deer

 

Can you suggest any guns? Weight is an issue, I need it to be reasonably light. Maybe even a youth model.

 

Anyone got any ideas for a shotgun and a rifle (for the deer)?

 

Tried crow-dont taste too nice :blush:

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All good advice, it sounds as though you are quite mobile and fit despite your disability, even more so than some unfit (or very fat) people?

 

If you're not too bothered about recoil a 20g would be a good compromise, they can be extremely light but you suffer from recoil with heavier loads. It also depends on your budget, you can look at kick off actions and the like.

 

As said, you'll most likely need some experience with centrefires before the plod will let you loose with one, there is lots of reading out there about clubs/mentors etc.

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Marc,hi.

I'm playing the devil's advocate here, so forgive me. You say that your folks are against hunting or shooting and you mention specifically Mum and Dad and get the impression that you live with them. To get a SGC and more specifically, A FAC, your local constabulary will be asking some pointed questions when you apply. One will be how do other occupants feel about you having fitearms in the house (or words to that affect). If it is the case that you do live "at home" you may just need to do some fast thinking - or move.

Sorry about that but I think many will confirm that the above is a valid point.

Nevertheless,

Good luck

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Not wanting to put you down but there is a big difference between shooting some clays with a mates gun and going out after game on your own. My first action would be to get a set of shooting lessons at a shooting school so you are safe and can shoot. Then think about applying for a SGC. As for game shooting it aint cheap! Grouse = about £160 a brace, Pheasant = minimum £20 per bird driven, less for walked up. As for pigeons, rabbits etc do you know any landowners who will let you shoot on their land?

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hi i am also disabled with my right leg. i have shot many makes of shotgun and rifles up to .243 with no problem and i can only stand for a very short time. i wondered have you considered using an automatic quad bike to get around i have seen several about some with gun rests. you could drive or trailor it to your shoot.

cheers ron

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To get a SGC and more specifically, A FAC, your local constabulary will be asking some pointed questions when you apply. One will be how do other occupants feel about you having fitearms in the house (or words to that affect). If it is the case that you do live "at home" you may just need to do some fast thinking - or move.

 

maybe the parents dont mind him having a gun in the house if they think its for clay shooting

 

tried crow-dont taste too nice

 

crow does taste good, if you get a nice brancher and cook it right

 

 

As for pigeons, rabbits etc do you know any landowners who will let you shoot on their land?

 

You dont need permission on someones land to get an sgc, most people get an sgc then go door knocking

 

Good luck with this mate, i hope you do get out, i would personally go for a 20gauge semi auto, hatsan escort youth may be worth a look, not to heavy, not to much recoil, cheap and will do what you need

 

Where are you from??

maybe someone on here could take you out and let you have a go with a different gun or 2

and give you a few tips

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