muckybear Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 can any1 help me out if you have permission to shoot on farm land does that give you the right to shoot anything i.e pheasants etc (quote from the farmer) if it ay livestock let it have it thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 if it ay livestock sorry but can you repeat in words us northerners can read please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muckybear Posted February 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 sorry if it is not cows sheep or horses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 You and farmer should clearly establish what you intend to shoot at the outset. If your approach to him was for vermin control, then you would be well advised to leave pheasants alone unless this has been specifically agreed, - and I believe they are currently out of season anyway. I think you also need a game licence for pheasant/hare etc. A further thing to consider is that the presence of game is generally noticed by the farmer - and anyone else in the area who may be interested. If said game dissapeared they may wonder if it was due to charlie or yourself... which could affect ongoing permission or new neighboring permission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muckybear Posted February 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 better?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 better?? clear as mud mate , thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted February 24, 2006 Report Share Posted February 24, 2006 Although the Farmer has given you permission to shoot anything that is not livestock, you are not permitted to shoot any bird or creature that is protected. Also, you need a game licence to shoot game and there are specified seasons for shooting game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wol the hunter Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 can any1 help me out if you have permission to shoot on farm land does that give you the right to shoot anything i.e pheasants etc (quote from the farmer) if it ay livestock let it have it thanks in advance it is absolutely imperative that you and land owner have in writing what you can shoot,ie game,pest control or vermin.if you are using a firearm it will state on you ticket what you can shoot.you wont be allowed to shoot pheasant with a rifle any way.it is not allowed.your best bet is to print out a aggrement for farmer to sign saying you will take care of vermin and pest species for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 Hi, It is legal to shoot Pheasant with an air rifle providing you have a game licence and permission to. I assumed this was the case with full bore rifles. FM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Cranfield or whoever...and I know this probably isn't the right place for this post BUT would it be an idea to put up some basic info re the legals etc of shooting as a number of members on here don't seem to have a clue. Maybe a bit about quarry species, SG & FAC law etc? If you join a wildfowling club your expected to take a test. Should be a requirement of any licencing in my opinion. If you don't know what you're legally entitled to shoot/do with a gun (lethal weapon) then you shouldn't have access to one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stirky Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 I second that highlander/cranfield, sometimes i wonder how people get a certificate, i can only assume that he knows about seasons for game and wildfowl and the requirement for a game licence and what species of bird or wildlife are protected, and finaly how dangerous a shot gun is in the wrong hands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 This is getting more and more difficult to find on the net, so download a copy AND READ IT http://police.homeoffice.gov.uk/news-and-p...pdf?view=Binary G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Country_est Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Problem is that you can get your SGC whislt only ever shooting clays. So the next move once your hooked is then on to vermin game ect ect. That is / can be the hardest part if you dont have a mentor to take you on through this step. Wether compulsory testing for certificates is a requirement I dont think you can go there in this thread or any other single thread. Maybe Hubertus can anwer something on that as I beleive there is a requirement for that in his country. The hardest part form what I see of a lot of new members are that they currently dont have the guidence of any mentors. Doubt Remy Juinor will have to ask the audience shuch things as he is getting the full guidence of remy1100, I am trying and will take my 2 out when ever they ask and are taking them to an air rifle club now. Trev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussex Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 A shotgun in the wrong Hands is a dangerous thing I know this from First hand experience ( A painfull one at that ) as for getting My certificate I had a very limited experience of Shotguns when I got My certificate I applied the Firearms officer asked Me what I planned to shoot ( In My case Vermin ) 2 weeks later the certificate came in the post . My accident unfortunatley was with My Own gun in the hands of a non licence holder Who I beleived was safety concious As He had trained as a Game Keeper and was also often on Pheasant shoots helping out ETC . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamspartacus Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 the thing is, there is a lot more required of you in safety terms when shooting live quarry compared to clay shooting (not that you don't have to be extremely safety conscious when shooting clays). Things happen when you least expect them to, and there are no rails or guards to keep you from swinging the barrels of the gun around in what could be a dangerous manner. The safety aspects of shooting in the field have to be second nature and I don't think you can get that without having been taught by a responsible mentor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussex Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Very True unfortunatley I learnt the hard way and have quite a limp to show for it :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitman Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 can any1 help me out if you have permission to shoot on farm land does that give you the right to shoot anything i.e pheasants etc (quote from the farmer) if it ay livestock let it have it thanks in advance hi mate, right firstly if the farmer has told you you can shoot it then as long as its legal quarry and in season you can shoot it ,no reason why you cant shoot pheasant with airgun/small bore or shotgun as long as it its practical to do so (ie within killing range)with the weapon you have. a game license is necessary if you wish to shoot game such as hare or pheasant /partridge ,cost about £6 from your post office (so how come we dont all buy them?:yp:). but wether the farmer has given you permission to shoot it or not one rule never to break is ensuring that you have the right tool for the job.and if youre not sure what that means then i would suggest you find some local people to you who have skills and experience ,ask nicely and learn. good luck pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muckybear Posted March 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 my 12g o/u does the job just fine pigeons rabbits the whole lot (when in season) the pheasants will have it as well me and my farmer have come to an agreement which includes pheasnts if its protected and you shoot it you deserve to have your fingers cut off PERIOD but when in season i will get a game ticket from p/off to make sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamspartacus Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 sussex, if you don't mind me asking, what happened? IAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussex Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 sussex, if you don't mind me asking, what happened? IAS Was out Pigeon shooting and unbeknown to Me the Guy I was with had the Gun He was using loaded and shut( on the off chance of a passing shot ) as We were walking to where We planned to shoot anyway I saw a Rabbit take flight to My left and as I turned My to raise My gun into it I heard a bang and felt quite a Thud in My right leg looked down and My foot and ankle were smoking not really sure how the gun went off the Guy who was holding the gun claimed the safety catch failed I checked that as soon as I was well enough to get back out and it was fine ? so I guess He was gonna take a shot at the rabbit also ( We dont talk anymore ) anyway long and short of it is I got shot in the Leg because I wasnt observant enough and too trusting in the Guy I was shooting with . To be honest I got off lightley I walk with a pronounced limp am pretty much garenteed Arthritis in My right Ankle and I wear a Brace on My leg but considering at the time I thought Id lost My Leg I feel pretty Lucky also if the shot was a couple of feet higher Im pretty sure I wouldnt be here writing this ! just a word of warning to all Who read this You can never be too carefull !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 There was a photo a few weeks ago in the sporting pictures section- i don't suppose that was you?! Just goes to show safety really is of paramount importance, all it takes is one mistake and game over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussex Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 No that wasnt Me at least I dont think it was Ive not seen the Pic myself I do have a Few Pics will see if I can upload ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussex Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 here! http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/joker78/leg.bmp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 Its best to get written permission. The form that I designed some years ago does the job, and has been used by many PW members. If you want a copy please PM and I will oblige. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 a game license is necessary if you wish to shoot game such as hare or pheasant /partridge ,cost about £6 from your post office (so how come we dont all buy them?).. good luck pete Not actually true. Although I do have one, and advocate everyone getting one, legally it's not necessary on farmland. You only need a game license for shooting on unenclosed land eg moorland etc. Shooting on a farmers field, although it may not be enclosed by fences, hedges etc, still constitutes shooting on ENclosed land. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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