old'un Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Should Sparrow hawks be taken off the protected birds list? My opinion is YES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobby63 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 WHY ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted February 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 WHY ! Why are magpies not on the protected birds list?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxerboy Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Should Sparrow hawks be taken off the protected birds list? My opinion is YES It might get a better response if you give your reasons why you think they should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobby63 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 So has these birds done some damage ? your post does'nt explain its self why you want them distroyed ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonblasterian Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Should Sparrow hawks be taken off the protected birds list? My opinion is NO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted February 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 So has these birds done some damage ? your post does'nt explain its self why you want them distroyed ? Perhaps I should explain why I think the Sparrow hawk should be removed from the protected birds list First there are too many of them, they take mainly song birds and unlike the Magpies they hunt birds all year round. Most song birds in this country have been used to a small numbers of Sparrow Hawks over the years but this last ten years we have seen an explosion in their numbers (thanks to the RSPB) a Sparrow Hawk needs to take a couple of song birds a day, just add that up over a year and you can see why song birds are on the decline. I presume you all would shoot a magpie if one came in range, so I have used the Magpie as a yard stick because the Magpie seems to be number one enemy when it comes to controlling vermin on pheasant shoot, Magpies only take eggs and chicks in the spring, but the Sparrow Hawk takes birds all year round so why have him on the protected birds list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntsman Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 old'un keep on reelin them in like a good un nothing like a good windup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 should cormorants be taken of the list as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobby63 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Well then my opinion is NO. My reason behind this is where would this be leading us to kill all preditor birds so all others can breed large numbers ? this is "life" through the animal/fish/bird chain there always a preditor ! Natures way of control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted February 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 old'un keep on reelin them in like a good un nothing like a good windup Had to laugh at that one, yes you are just a little right, this topic will split people but I am deadly serous about removing the Sparrow Hawk from the list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted February 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Well then my opinion is NO. My reason behind this is where would this be leading us to kill all preditor birds so all others can breed large numbers ? this is "life" through the animal/fish/bird chain there always a preditor ! Natures way of control. so why kill Magpies?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobby63 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Maybe thats a better post question to ask and you may get an an answer ? It wasn't me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted February 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Maybe thats a better post question to ask and you may get an an answer ? It wasn't me I am waiting then!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted February 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Here’s a short answer to some of the replies. You cannot go around saying its ok to shoot Magpies because they take eggs and chicks and in the same breath say the Sparrow Hawk should not be removed from the protected birds list, think about it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 (edited) I don't think anybody gives a flying **** what your opinion on the matter is. Sparrowhawks are a natural predator and have no serious impact on song bird numbers. Domestic cats and humans on the other hand, have a huge impact on numbers of songbirds. Perhaps the cull should start there. If you want to alienate field sports in the eyes of the public and the law, you're going about it the right way Edited February 13, 2011 by Chard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Here’s a short answer to some of the replies. You cannot go around saying its ok to shoot Magpies because they take eggs and chicks and in the same breath say the Sparrow Hawk should not be removed from the protected birds list, think about it!! It's a numbers game I should think. According to RSPB figures there are approx 40,000 breedings pairs of Sparrowhawk compared to 650,000 breeding pairs of Magpie. Sparrowhawk numbers have only recently started to climb, and I would suspect will remain fairly static. However, if they were to reach similar figures to Magpie then I wouldn't be surprised to see a change of policy. My own personal opinion is NO, they shouldn't be culled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted February 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 I don't think anybody gives a flying **** what your opinion on the matter is. Sparrowhawks are a natural predator and have no serious impact on song bird numbers. Domestic cats and humans on the other hand, have a huge impact on numbers of songbirds. Perhaps the cull should start there. If you want to alienate field sports in the eyes of the public and the law, you're going about it the right way Thanks for the reply, funny how bad language comes into the conversation when someone knows very little of what they are replying to. My question was do you think the Sparrow Hawk should be removed from the protected birds list. I said nothings about braking the law!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrshiretaxidermy Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Why are magpies not on the protected birds list?? ALL birds are protected, even magpies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Thanks for the reply, funny how bad language comes into the conversation when someone knows very little of what they are replying to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 (edited) Thanks for the reply, funny how bad language comes into the conversation when someone knows very little of what they are replying to. My question was do you think the Sparrow Hawk should be removed from the protected birds list. I said nothings about braking the law!! What makes you think I know nothing about raptors, preacher? I've argued about this **** with people like you for decades, so don't tell me what I know about and what I don't know about. You lose a couple of crappy pheasant poults and you want to change the shape of the countryside forever and to hell with what anybody else wants Edited February 13, 2011 by Chard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted February 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 I don't think anybody gives a flying **** what your opinion on the matter is. Sparrowhawks are a natural predator and have no serious impact on song bird numbers. Domestic cats and humans on the other hand, have a huge impact on numbers of songbirds. Perhaps the cull should start there. If you want to alienate field sports in the eyes of the public and the law, you're going about it the right way Ho just one more thing I don’t think the public are that stupid take a look at this link http://songbirds-slaughter.org.uk/2010/07/05/155#comment-201 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrshiretaxidermy Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Thanks for the reply, funny how bad language comes into the conversation when someone knows very little of what they are replying to. My question was do you think the Sparrow Hawk should be removed from the protected birds list. I said nothings about braking the law!! Old`un, it seems you the one that knows very little of what they are talking about. 1, Magpies are protected 2, There is NO protected birds list and 3, its sparrowhawk, not sparrow hawk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Ho just one more thing I don’t think the public are that stupid take a look at this link http://songbirds-slaughter.org.uk/2010/07/05/155#comment-201 That's got nothing to do with the public, that's some fruitcake extremist site. Bunch of mentalists. Get over it. Are you recruiting for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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