Sound Moderators

[Browning]

I've seen various comments on the forum that suggest you can have one sound

moderator to fit different rifles.

 

I have a T8 originally fitted and proofed on my T3 .243.

 

Can I simply get my new T3 .270 screwed for this and swap the T8 between

rifles as-and-when required ?

[Hodmedod.one]

My wildcat is actually stamped with .243 WIN and the proof mark.

 

I haven't actually measured the size of my moderator exit hole, but it isn't very big.

 

Using one moderator for two rifles sounds like a good idea, bur for God's sake make sure the .270 bullet can safely pass through the .243 moderator. :*)

 

Cheers,

 

Chris.

[dunganick]

excluding the legal side of things (not my field)

 

the only problem i can see is if you bought a gun with a different barrel profile. As the bushing at the rear must fit exactly as ment to your barrel.

 

however you can buy new bushings for them and they are easily swaped over.

[Axe]

As far as I am aware, you are not allowed to use one moderator on two rifles, regardless of calibre. Perhaps someone can confirm this?

[jonno 357]

"As far as I am aware, you are not allowed to use one moderator on two rifles, regardless of calibre"

 

Why not Axe ? I don't know either

 

Firstly on the legal side, as you already will know you must have it on your ticket for the 270 to use one

 

I would check the the diameter of the exit hole on the wildcat Don't want any accidents do we

 

Jonno

Edited March 13, 2006 by jonno 357

[markbivvy]

I've seen various comments on the forum that suggest you can have one sound

moderator to fit different rifles.

 

I have a T8 originally fitted and proofed on my T3 .243.

 

Can I simply get my new T3 .270 screwed for this and swap the T8 between

rifles as-and-when required ?

as far as i know ,if all your rifles are authorized to be used with a mod you can swap them from gun to gun.

Edited March 13, 2006 by markbivvy

[Browning]

******.

 

Apparently the T8 comes in two sizes, .25 and .30. So I'm assuming mine will be the .25 fitted on my .243.

 

It will be too small for the .270 so I'll have to buy another Mod.

 

Hope Mrs Brownings in a good mood...........

[kip270]

I have a T8 and use it on my .270 and my .222. Have a look at your T8 and it will tell you what calibre it is for. Mine is 30cal so there is sufficent clearence for the .270 bullet to pass through

 

My ticket says: Full bore moderator: the sound moderator will take the same condition as the firearm to which it is attached.

 

Do you have the condition on your ticket for the .243 & .270 to use the Moderator

Edited March 13, 2006 by kip270

[Browning]

Cheers Kip.

 

My T8 is stamped .25, so I'll have to replace it for the .270.

 

I have .243 and sound moderator already on my ticket, and my recent variation was for a .270 and sound moderator, so I'm covered from the legal aspects.

[Devilishdave]

You could use the .270 mod on the .243 but not the other way around. Keep your bush off of your .243 and sell the can with a new bush. Legaly I am sure there is a way around this, give your FLO a call.

 

Dave

[Browning]

Dave,

 

That's what I'm looking to do now, just need to source a new bush and it'll go.

 

There aren't any legal issues from my side, both rifles are on my ticket, along with a moderator for each. So legally I can own two rifles and two sound mods.

 

I spoke to my FEO about it when he came round for a chat and he agreed there's no reason to buy two Mods if one will suffice.

[Frank]

I've seen various comments on the forum that suggest you can have one sound

moderator to fit different rifles.

 

I have a T8 originally fitted and proofed on my T3 .243.

 

Can I simply get my new T3 .270 screwed for this and swap the T8 between

rifles as-and-when required ?

Becarefull.

Someone i know, put his Mod that was on his .243, on to a .308 and blew the mod up , due to high pressure apparently.

Just speaking from what iv seen from experience.

[henry d]

I believe the wildcats have to be .5mm bigger than the max calibre you use and can be changed over,according to my local

[deadeye ive]

OK .........these things are mass produced .........same outer shell,baffles of which the bore size changes etc .......T8 is longer than T4 for obvious reasons ............Not to sure about the magnum

 

Why can't you put a T8 proofed for .243 on a lathe and open her up for the required clearence to take a .270..........you must be only talking a few thou I imagine

 

Then M/C a new rear bush to accept the new rifle ............Just a thought

 

Ive

[Hodmedod.one]

OK .........these things are mass produced .........same outer shell,baffles of which the bore size changes etc .......T8 is longer than T4 for obvious reasons ............Not to sure about the magnum

 

Why can't you put a T8 proofed for .243 on a lathe and open her up for the required clearence to take a .270..........you must be only talking a few thou I imagine

 

Then M/C a new rear bush to accept the new rifle ............Just a thought

 

Ive

Hi Ive,

 

This might be acceptable for the strip down type of moderators when you can see how much "meat" there is. Do you really fancy machining material off a non-strippable Reflex type when you cannot measure the thickness of material you are starting with?

 

there are some photos on the forum of the exit hole on a used reflex showing how the hole has eroded/distorted. This makes me think that they probably haven't got very thick internal walls.

 

If the moderator has been machined/altered after proofing, even your insurance would be invalid in the event of you failure (assuming you were still around to claim off it).

 

Sounds well dodgy to me. :*)

 

Stay safe Guys.

[deadeye ive]

I've seen various comments on the forum that suggest you can have one sound

moderator to fit different rifles.

 

I have a T8 originally fitted and proofed on my T3 .243.

 

Can I simply get my new T3 .270 screwed for this and swap the T8 between

rifles as-and-when required ?

OK

I'm up to speed now :o (Taken from this Mths Gunmart)

 

T4 Sporting and Target rifles up to 30-06 Spr-580g & 65mm additional barrel lth

T8 .............................................30-06.........670g.& 98mm............................

T4 & T8 AR..................................223rem

T8 - SSR Steyr Scout rifles up to .308 win 590g & 98mm additional barrel lth

T8-MAG .......Magnum rifles 690g & 113mm additional barrel lth

 

Now my T8 has a 19/64" (7.54mm exit hole ) and looking at the above it'll handle more than a .270 ............Unless you have the AR version .

 

Hod,,,,,,, I agree if you don't understand the principals it could be dodgy but I 'm basing my opinion on my welding and fabrication experience .As for the recent photo (and fister will love me for this ) the fatigue and wear was accelerated by non other that the barrel burning ,flamethrowing ,overpowered AND loud as hell even when moderated 22/250

 

Ive

[deadeye ive]

T4 Sporting and Target rifles up to 30-06 Spr-580g & 65mm additional barrel lth

 

T8 .............................................30-06.........670g.& 98mm............................

 

Now my T8 has a 19/64" (7.54mm exit hole ) and looking at the above it'll handle more than a .270 ............

:o

 

Can someone elaborate on this .............Is'nt 30 cal going into 7.62 mm territory as my Mod on my .223 is only 3 mths old

 

 

Ive

[Hodmedod.one]

OK

I'm up to speed now (Taken from this Mths Gunmart)

 

T4 Sporting and Target rifles up to 30-06 Spr-580g & 65mm additional barrel lth

T8 .............................................30-06.........670g.& 98mm............................

T4 & T8 AR..................................223rem

T8 - SSR Steyr Scout rifles up to .308 win 590g & 98mm additional barrel lth

T8-MAG .......Magnum rifles 690g & 113mm additional barrel lth

 

Now my T8 has a 19/64" (7.54mm exit hole ) and looking at the above it'll handle more than a .270 ............Unless you have the AR version .

 

Hod,,,,,,, I agree if you don't understand the principals it could be dodgy but I 'm basing my opinion on my welding and fabrication experience .As for the recent photo (and fister will love me for this ) the fatigue and wear was accelerated by non other that the barrel burning ,flamethrowing ,overpowered AND loud as hell even when moderated 22/250 :o

 

Ive

Ive,

 

From the data that you quote out of Gun Mart, it seems that all Browning needs is another bush for the barrel on his .270.

 

I am sure this will please both Mr and Mrs Browning.

 

I would still check the internal diameter just to make sure. And probably double check with Reflex when phoning to order a new bush.

 

The consequences of someone boring out the i.d of a non-strippable moderator when they don't know how thick the tube walls are doesn't bear thinking about. :o

 

Sounds like the loads that Fister is using are suitable for the types of artillery piece that normally come complete with wheels fitted. :o

 

Chris.

[Browning]

Guys,

 

I'm not quite sure where the Gunmart info came from, but I spoke to Jackson Rifles, who I believe are the UK distributors for Reflex?

 

They told me that the T8 comes in two bore sizes. .25 and .30.

 

MY T8 has .25 stamped on it, so I am assuming that is the bore diameter and therefore

it's not suitable for my .270.

 

To be safe I am going to buy a new T8 for the .270, which again I presume will have

a .30 bore diameter and therefore, with a different barrel bush, will be suitable for my .243 also.

[deadeye ive]

Guys,

 

I'm not quite sure where the Gunmart info came from, but I spoke to Jackson Rifles, who I believe are the UK distributors for Reflex?

The plot thickens :o

 

The info I quoted came from JACKSON RIFLES ............Maybe if stuartp as a addition he could take a photo of the page and post it ..........It's pg 154 in the March addition BTW :o

 

I'm beginning to think I have the 25 cal version as it's a 7.54mm hole.........They should be all 30 cal looking at this ................Same money as well :<

 

Ive

[leon]

Wel my T8 mag gets swapped from my .308 to my .300wsm to my .270 then my .243 then to my.223 and it's stamped by the proof house for 300wsm/.243win & .223rem and it shuts the lot of them up nicely. and as for them wearing away only if you don't look after them....

[kip270]

I'm beginning to think I have the 25 cal version as it's a 7.54mm hole.........They should be all 30 cal looking at this ................Same money as well :<

 

Ive

Ive, take a look at your the bush end of your T8 and it will tell you if it is .25 or .30, here is a pic of mine

[deadeye ive]

Thanks Kip

 

I've already worked it out before looking, it's a 25 cal and I was under the impression they were ALL 30 cal which is what you'd buy if you had any sense

 

Oh well ...........such is life ..............When you get 5 mins measure the bore dia and let me know ...........my guess is it will be around 9mm

 

Ive ....still living and learning

[kip270]

When you get 5 mins measure the bore dia and let me know ...........my guess is it will be around 9mm

Spot on ive, 9mm it is

[graysclassics]

You can do what you like within reason; I have two moderators, one for .22 rimfire and one for .22-250 it does not matter whether its stamped with proof marks, calibre or made in taiwan. Mine were made by a local engineer and do not have serial numbers. If your rifle appears on your licence along with a sound moderator you can switch between any such rifles as long as the pressure does not exceed that for which it was built. i.e. if the moderator was designed for an air gun or rimfire, the muzzle pressure will blow it to bits if you use it on a centerfire because it's guts contain alluminium washers, but if it's built to suit centerfire pressures and 6mm or so dia, use it. Just because a moderator will appear on you licence it does not mean you have to buy one for each rifle if its suitable for more than one.