Gnome of the Woods Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Two minute job to move it, the position fulfills all the criteria and is about the only place in the house it can go! Plus saves on a other visit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderdude Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 It's the "presumption" you will get a licence that they don't like.. Well in our area it is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 when she came round she said "is it bolted to the wall" i replied that it was and opend the safe to point out the bolts that is when she grabbed the door and with her whole body she was properly yanking at it....i did tell her to stop becouse i thort she was going to have it off the wall... it took me a week to get over what she did i was boiling inside and if she had managed to get it off the wall and seized my firearms??? could she do that?? In the real world it wouldnt be possible for a thief to swing off the door because they need to get it open in the first place and therefore have no need to remove cabinet from wall.When the door is locked shut theres nowhere on a cabinet you could effectley use as leverage so was a bit silly for her to use so much effort unless she was demonstating her athletic prowness and was comming onto you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderdude Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 she was demonstating her athletic prowness and was comming onto you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome of the Woods Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 It's the "presumption" you will get a licence that they don't like.. Well in our area it is... I ordered the cabinet for my air rifles before I put my application in. I have 2 daughters under 18, and although they have used my air rifles and have been taught to respect and not touch them without permission, I wanted to make absolutely sure in the future that they or their friends could not get hold of them. I am being anything but presumptuous in my application, if I don't get my SGC the cabinet stays where it is and just houses my air rifles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderdude Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Sounds a perfectly reasonable explanation to me... Good luck with your visit, mine was just over two weeks after submission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SniperR10 Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 I ordered the cabinet for my air rifles before I put my application in. I have 2 daughters under 18, and although they have used my air rifles and have been taught to respect and not touch them without permission, I wanted to make absolutely sure in the future that they or their friends could not get hold of them. I am being anything but presumptuous in my application, if I don't get my SGC the cabinet stays where it is and just houses my air rifles. I had my safe a year before i got round Applying for my SGC. As above i used it for my Airguns and still do. FEO was more concerned where the cabinet was ie. out of sight from anybody (not in view of a window)and he definately never swung off the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbiter Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 That's all I did. Bolt it down as best you can, my house is old and no straight walls. Had about 4mm gap at the top half of the cabinet.....filled the void with three tubs of "no more nails", ran some down the sides as well, cleaned it up and Roberts your fathers brother. No problems at all when checked. thats exactly what i did,only, the feo told me to do it,then after i had done it i had to email him to say it had been done,no problems... DAZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linny Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Theres no space in my bedroom for a gun cabinet as i have too many power tools stored under my bed. and yes before anyone points it out, I can only get away with that because its my house and i'm single! just read this and still laughing i have too many power tools under my bed and I'm single o dear if it keeps you happy high powered dreams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 I had this issue recently when I moved into my new house, new build with standard irritating plasterboard rubbish. Originally went into the concrete floor but the FEO's piece of paper says the wall, which is weaker, but hey ho. He also wanted flush to the wall, not with a piece of board so that meant a plinth for the cabinet to sit on. Took me a weekend to get teh bloody thing mounted but got there in the end. Trick to the gap was easy in the end - measure the gap between the back of the plasterboard and the blockwork (easy enough so long as you have a nice long bolt) and then put the 4 bolts through the cabinet ahead of mounting to the wall. Add nuts on the back of them to the right spacing plus washers on either side of the cabinet, and when you screw it all up, tight as anything and works a charm. You are effectively ignoring the plasterboard all together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcooke25552 Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 i have the same feo as archie1234 as does my uncle. she looked at my cabinet and didnt touch it but both archie and my uncle have said she swung off it with all her might. are they allowed in the loft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderdude Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 My FEO said the lift is be becoming increasingly popular, particularly in new houses. He had no problem with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughjamton Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Do all new houses have lifts in now ? what if it's a bungalow ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andysniper Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 i had the same problem with my walls being a new house its dry lined with dot and dab and all i did was drill throught the plaster board and in to the block used threaded bar and secured it in with chemical fixing resein(screwfix) and it set as hard as rock and when my fao came he was more than happy with the way it was done so no need to remove any plaster board when you tighten it up to wall dont over do it as they may be risk of pulling it through the plaster board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 what would anyone surgest if you live in a prefab house where your only solid wall is the brickwork outer skin. and no room for a 7 gun cabinet to be bolted to the floor or any loft area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timps Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 are they allowed in the loft? My mate had his fitted in the loft, FEO said if the loft floor was not boarded out to the cabinet she would not be allowed to go up and inspect it, also if the loft did not have easy access (built in loft ladder) they could refuse on the basis that its too awkward for him so he might be tempted to not use the cabinet as soon as he returned home from a shoot so have & his tea / shower first etc.. But his was approved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderdude Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 My FEO said the lift is be becoming increasingly popular, particularly in new houses. He had no problem with that. Damn iPhone predictive text!!!! "loft" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 Well.....An update on this saga, Just had a call from the feo, and its not good, have been told the drywall lining HAS to be cut out to allow the cabinet to go back against the blockwork. Wouldn't listen to any form of reasonable argument against this so being in a privately rented house looks like I'm jiggered unless I can get the thing up in the loft (sheeeesh it's heavy) Gotta get it in place for next Wednesday AM :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderdude Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 and its not good, have been told the drywall lining HAS to be cut out to allow the cabinet to go back against the blockwork. That's c**p..... I guess you got your FEO on a bad day...... I had no such problem at all with this and even have it bolted 3 inches off the ground and nothing was said about the gap underneath. This is where there should be a uniform agreement countrywide. What is the point of one area saying it isn't a problem, then another saying it is..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted April 7, 2011 Report Share Posted April 7, 2011 (edited) That's c**p..... I guess you got your FEO on a bad day...... I had no such problem at all with this and even have it bolted 3 inches off the ground and nothing was said about the gap underneath. This is where there should be a uniform agreement countrywide. What is the point of one area saying it isn't a problem, then another saying it is..... C**P Indeed !! and totally rollocks His reasoning being was that with the cabinet against drywall board its to easy to jam a prybar/jemmy into(through) the plaster board and lever the cabinet off the wall and rip the bolts out of the brickwork. Bloody hell you'd need a tow truck so long as I put all six bolts into the blockwork properly, and the cupboard is only around 2ft square so not alot of room for leverage. Apparently, according to him, this cutting out drywall is the new std requirement in Essex for new applications. Edited April 7, 2011 by TaxiDriver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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