colin lad Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 hi all as the title says i have a 20 inch cz hmr if i wanted the barrel cutting down to say 14-15inch how much would i be looking at?? thats shortening,threading and proofing and does anyone now where to get a good job done local to Bedford thanks colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiautolee Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 would that be bedford next to biggleswade??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted March 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 would that be bedford next to biggleswade??? yes thats the one colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiautolee Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 yes thats the one colin incoming pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie g Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 around £100 i would say. i get it done for £70 but dont bother with the proof if you dont intend to sell the rifle on. mind some gunsmiths wont do it with out proof i guess that is to do with there insurance. sorry dont know if any gunsmith in Bedfordshire. Richard pope in Worcestershire [ bromsgrove] offers great work for good prices. bit of a trek for you though i guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Give Chris a call at UKGunworks in Northampton, not too far from you and he does a very good job at a good price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlistairB Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Or try Andy King at R & K Stockcraft in Stony Stratford, not too far from Bedford. He did a really nice job on a mates .308 AB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiautolee Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 ring the number i gave you colin there work is fantastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 I'd suggest you are looking about the £120 mark for what you want done. I would get it proofed in case you want to sell it however its very marginal between the cost of selling the one you have and buying a short cz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 I noticed recently that Edgar Brothers ( the importers ) recommend that owners don't shorten CZ barrels, because CZ put a slight choke at the muzzle to aid accuracy. How true this is, I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldypurple Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 i had my 1022 shortened to 14" and screwcut and it cost me £35, done by philip webster gunsmiths, he has a website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted March 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 thanks all for your reply's everyone got a few good options, Donaldson's quoted me £70 will give r&k stockcraft a ring as i found them very helpfull the other week when i was in there,will also give a ring to the man semiautolee gave me, the reason was when i got my hmr i got a bargin £300 new but it was 20inch barrel and thought that would be fine but after using it in the car Monday i realized the difference with it and my 16inch .22lr, so thinking is if its not too dear to get chop then i still got a good price gun, as for the proofing of it after a long chat with chap at Donaldson's i was told of a land mark court case that he said meant that it was not a legal requirement to have it proofed but don't jump on me about that as its just what i have been told and i guess they should know thanks again all will let you know how i get on colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 I noticed recently that Edgar Brothers ( the importers ) recommend that owners don't shorten CZ barrels, because CZ put a slight choke at the muzzle to aid accuracy. How true this is, I don't know. I don't believe it. My .22 was 21" and I had it chopped to 14" If anything it is even more accurate than it was before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted March 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 I don't believe it. My .22 was 21" and I had it chopped to 14" If anything it is even more accurate than it was before. hi mate i spoke to shop and they said not to go below 16inch is that because its hmr and not 22lr or do you think they are just being safe colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 I would listen to their advice, 14" is considered by quite a few to be the optimum for a .22 that doesn't mean it will work for the .17 they are completely different calibres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 I noticed recently that Edgar Brothers ( the importers ) recommend that owners don't shorten CZ barrels, because CZ put a slight choke at the muzzle to aid accuracy. How true this is, I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Dont go to R&K Stockcraft, i have seen some of their threading jobs, the thread on a Sauer i corrected was particularly bad, torn, undersize and without an undercut, its one of the worst threading jobs i have ever seen. Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted March 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Dont go to R&K Stockcraft, i have seen some of their threading jobs, the thread on a Sauer i corrected was particularly bad, torn, undersize and without an undercut, its one of the worst threading jobs i have ever seen. Ian. have you any feedback on Donaldsons of mk??? colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiautolee Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 any phone call back yet colin?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermincinerator Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 have you any feedback on Donaldsons of mk??? colin Have not heard anything about them but i would reccommend that you get your barrel threaded from any reputable riflesmith direct rather then go through a retail gunshop, that way you know where its going to have the work done. Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 I know what you mean, but here's a link to the EB site http://shootingsports.edgarbrothers.com/pages/Ask-Derek-8.aspx They write; We do not recommend the cutting down of any CZ barrel due to the fact that they are hammer forged and are actually choked at the muzzle to maximise accuracy which is one of the reasons CZ rifles are renowned for their accuracy. In their defence, benchrest rimfire builders will slug a barrel and cut it at the tightest point, the idea being that when the barrel is tightest the bullet isn't rattling around as it leaves. Worst case scenario is that you cut the barrel at a loose point where the bullet is rattling and the exit is inconsistent. I haven't cut down a barrel myself, but if I did I would certainly slug it first. I have re-crowned a few, that's worth doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 I can see the resoning in that but.. Call me an old cynic but here is another quote from that same page... If you want a shorter barrel part ex your old rifle and get a new rifle with a new three year guarantee! Maybe the hundreds (thousands?) of people who have done this just got lucky and chopped at exactly the right spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 I can see the resoning in that but.. Call me an old cynic but here is another quote from that same page... If you want a shorter barrel part ex your old rifle and get a new rifle with a new three year guarantee! Maybe the hundreds (thousands?) of people who have done this just got lucky and chopped at exactly the right spot. ..and if the 16" are purpose built that length, and apparently getting very popular, why are they more expensive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 I forgot, good use of the word 'get' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 I can see the resoning in that but.. Call me an old cynic but here is another quote from that same page... If you want a shorter barrel part ex your old rifle and get a new rifle with a new three year guarantee! Maybe the hundreds (thousands?) of people who have done this just got lucky and chopped at exactly the right spot. I thought the same thing about the p/x sentence, but then again, it does put a used rifle on the market which would affect new sales anyway. Who knows. Personally I believe them about the choke, because my .22LR and HMR have tighter bores towards the muzzle, as felt by my cleaning rods getting tighter at the end. How much difference does it make in the field ? I don't know, perhaps only a benchrest shooter could tell the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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