Albertan_J Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 Just read this page of posts and now want to move back home. Still can't get over the benefits system in the UK it's insanity at the highest level. Amazing how in so many cases unemployment turns to disability people just work the system and we sit back and take it on the chin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaybeNextTime Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 I resent paying other peoples Child Tax credit when we have no kids. Its unfair wealth redistribution. I'm a middle aged socialist. My dad was a miner, my mother a dinner lady. So you got free education, free school milk, free school dinners, access to affordable council houses to rent (and then buy at a discount), your mum received child benefit for you and your dad got married man's tax allowance but now it's your turn to pay tax you resent it? Says a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubshot Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 Most of the Nation feel hard done by By most Governments But after 13 years of the Last Government - in the Name of the Peoples Labour Party Control by Union Leaders who are supposed to Act on behalf of their Members What Chance does this Nation Have - As the Labour threw away Taxpapers Funds and Never really achieved anything for the Nations Workers - Apart with Saddling those Who do pay Taxes - with a life Time of Debt BOB/R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Most of the Nation feel hard done by By most Governments But after 13 years of the Last Government - in the Name of the Peoples Labour Party Control by Union Leaders who are supposed to Act on behalf of their Members What Chance does this Nation Have - As the Labour threw away Taxpapers Funds and Never really achieved anything for the Nations Workers - Apart with Saddling those Who do pay Taxes - with a life Time of Debt BOB/R I don'tknow where you've been for the last fifteen years but 'New Labour' was especially created out of the ashes of the Labour Party that had disintigrated under neo-Communist policies. 'New Labour' was created by the very people who had supported the Conservative Party for many years until they realised that it had become unelectable due to sleaze. 'New Labour' has never been in the name of the peoples Labour Party. They made the distinction by inserting 'New' to distance themselves from the crackpot policies that allowed the unions to run the country and destroy industry under theprevious Labour Party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 The New Labour was very media savvy and embraced very strongly the ethos of spin. Permanently keeping the protective shield of media manipulation up to hide the truth that actually they weren't doing anything about the important issues and were divided by infighting. It was good news every day with New Labour but behind the scenes Gordon Brown was raiding the pension funds, selling off the gold reserves and filling the country with mass immigration. Many of these immigrants were/are totally unemployable, uneducated, illiterate, inumerate, can't speak english yet we were told over and over again they were good for the economy. Now thats spin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Some excellent comments on this thread. The reason why the media loved spin (and it did, whatever it said) is that the meeeedja, above all else, is obsessed with itself. Therefore it sucks up anything that panders to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Some excellent comments on this thread. The reason why the media loved spin (and it did, whatever it said) is that the meeeedja, above all else, is obsessed with itself. Therefore it sucks up anything that panders to it. Self-absorbed and terminally lazy - that's the media. So when they get spoon fed stories they don't look any further even if it isn't the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 (edited) Self-absorbed and terminally lazy - that's the media. So when they get spoon fed stories they don't look any further even if it isn't the truth. Absolutely true, spin gives them a story or a soundbite or a headline every day without having to go and look for it And people like Alistair Campbell made sure they were always well fed.The London Protest this week end was organised by Labour to protest at cuts made necessary by their policies. How hypercritical is that? Edited March 28, 2011 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaguar Warrior Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 (edited) So you got free education, yup free school milk, yup, until I was 10 free school dinners, no access to affordable council houses to rent (and then buy at a discount) no, we built our own, and I dug 10 foot sewers for the toilet at 7 1/2 yo , your mum received child benefit for you and your dad got married man's tax allowance I though everyone got this? but now it's your turn to pay tax you resent it? Says a lot. Says your jealous. MaybeNextTime - just where precisely in my long, boring diatribe did I say I resented paying my tax? What I clearly resent is the disproportionate amount of tax. Its like running on a treadmill that keeps getting faster. The harder you work, the less you get. Its like someone suggesting that I expect a free car from a dealer as to being opposed to being blatantly ripped off. I believe in a meritocracy - pay and lifestyle according to ability, contribution to society and amount of hard work and sacrifice to get there. As for my free education, i've paid it back ten fold. Thick and lazy son has probably only still covered his infant school costs. I paid for his secondary education. His special needs I'm happy to pay - thats the socialist in me. The bit I don't like paying for is the 'lazy' bit. It was a total waste of my hard earned money. I know where most of my tax has gone - to buy 42" LCD TVs, playstations, cars and ipads for the lazy, not on the poor pensioner couple mentioned earlier. All the best! JW Edited March 29, 2011 by Jaguar Warrior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 what I want to know is has Henryd our forum soap dodger protester got himself arrested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Nope, I was mugged though............... ....... £6 for 3 cuppas and £4-15 for a pint of stella in Walkabout on the Victoria embankment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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