TOM'S DAD Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 evening stroll, good mixed vermin bag Tom shot the squirrel & the Rook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Master Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Hi, What load was the fox taken with? Good shooting. FM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOM'S DAD Posted April 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Hi, What load was the fox taken with? Good shooting. FM 32grms 5 shot. Teal my springer bolted from bramble near farm. shot at about 20-30 yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chezney Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Good shooting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackthorn Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 thats one happy young gun, well done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenzie Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy trucker Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 dont want to cause any greif but do you realise that u have just wiped out a full litter of cubs if thats a dog fox the vixen will stay and feed her cubs as long as she can but when hunger gets the better of her she will probaly eat her cubs if its a vixen well the cubs are going to die of starvation it all depends on how far the litter is up. are they on solids, if so they might survive. there is a very slim chance. i have killed 100's of foxes but i believe that this time of year they should be left alone (unless they are taking stock) then i will get a phone call off mr farmer to ask if i can deal with the problem so if people insist on still killing foxes this time of year please keep it to yourself as some of us have ethics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Top shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Well done!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughshooter Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Tommy - the reason most of are allowed to shoot on farms is that we control vermin as well as enjoy ourselves. No 1 vermin for most farmers is charlie so in my humble opinion it needs doing Regards Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOM'S DAD Posted April 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 (edited) dont want to cause any greifbut do you realise that u have just wiped out a full litter of cubs if thats a dog fox the vixen will stay and feed her cubs as long as she can but when hunger gets the better of her she will probaly eat her cubs if its a vixen well the cubs are going to die of starvation it all depends on how far the litter is up. are they on solids, if so they might survive. there is a very slim chance. i have killed 100's of foxes but i believe that this time of year they should be left alone (unless they are taking stock) then i will get a phone call off mr farmer to ask if i can deal with the problem so if people insist on still killing foxes this time of year please keep it to yourself as some of us have ethics yes Tommy, i do understand the points you have put across, and i am experienced enough to apprieciate the implications of culling foxes at this time of year, ( by the way , it was a dog fox probably out seaching for food for the vixen and cubs). Try explaining this to the farmer who has lost 7 lambs and most of his yard hens in the last 6-8 weeks. So yes, Tommy, if required by the farms i gratefully have permission to shoot over, there is a need to cull foxes, cubs included, i will happily do so. As reguard to keeping this to myself to save upsetting those whom do not agree with this position, is that not a 'Labour stance' to why we have already lost hunting with dogs and the same threat to shooting? Edited April 10, 2006 by TOM'S DAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOM'S DAD Posted April 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Tommy - the reason most of are allowed to shoot on farms is that we control vermin as well as enjoy ourselves. No 1 vermin for most farmers is charlie so in my humble opinion it needs doing Regards Graham Thanks Roughshooter, i agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 I agree 100% that the fox needs to be controlled and i shoot em on sight. CUBS should never be left to starve to death though and they should be taken care of. Again well done !!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest john5 Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 with the damage i have seen caused by foxes over the years i have no morals about shooting them at this time of year,. i do understand that there may be a moral dilema for some people but as always , there is more than "one angle" to be considerd , as for posting pictures , they are vermin , and he stated that "the kill was within sensible range"............. each to his own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 As reguard to keeping this to myself to save upsetting those whom do not agree with this position, is that not a 'Labour stance' to why we have already lost hunting with dogs and the same threat to shooting? Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOM'S DAD Posted April 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 (edited) Thanks for your support Miffy, John5 :o All us shooters/hunters should stick together with so much "outside" opposition even though sometimes our individual views may naturally vary slightly. Again, Thanks Lads AND HAPPY HUNTING :o :o :o or do i have to wear this sort of clothing on a daily basis :yp: :look: Edited April 10, 2006 by TOM'S DAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOM'S DAD Posted April 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 As reguard to keeping this to myself to save upsetting those whom do not agree with this position, is that not a 'Labour stance' to why we have already lost hunting with dogs and the same threat to shooting? Exactly. :look: well said Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibby Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Well shot, have exactly same views as others who support shooting foxes now, it needs doing... Gibby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard_Archer Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Nice one Lads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy trucker Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 evening stroll, good mixed vermin bag Tom shot the squirrel & the Rook you never stated you where in persuit of a fox that had been taking stock you were out for an evening strol so there for i (and other people inc anti's) could and would presume that you shot the fox coz u could, with no regard for its litter of cubs leaving them to starve, its just more fuel for the anti's YES foxes need to be controlled EVEN THIS TIME OF THE YEAR if they're up to no good i'll look forward to seeing pic's of the vixen & cubs that u will take care of BEFORE the cubs die of starvation whilst your out on your next evening strol people who are posting pic's or telling others over the net what they have shot should be carefull how they WORD what they say thats the last i have to say on the matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 i'll look forward to seeing pic's of the vixen & cubs that u will take care of BEFORE the cubs die of starvationwhilst your out on your next evening strol What timescale would you have to 'do the right thing' and dispatch them before they starved to death? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOM'S DAD Posted April 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 All us shooters/hunters should stick together with so much "outside" opposition even though sometimes our individual views may naturally vary slightly. TOMMY TRUCKER With fellow shooters/hunters like yourself, who needs enemies! :< You seem like a very disruptive and arguementitive fellow. if you don't like the photo's posted in this forum........don't view them i now understand why some members are turning away from this website which is designed to unite shooters/hunters when we have members who seem to want to pass judgement at the drop of hat and enforce their opinions and views so forcefully onto others. by the way TOMMY, are you TONY BLAIR in disguise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PestController Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 This has turned out to be quite an argumentative post...and am feeling obliged to put my two penn'th in. Gibby obviously thought he was doing the right thing in culling the fox, because of the risk to his ducks, allbeit I would have thought they would have been at more risk from his cats! I tend to read more than I post, and have read many posts by Tommy, who to me seems an ethical and responsible hunter. Others have made suggestions about dropping foxes on sight without due cause, at any time of the year, simply because they're virmin. Seems to me, we all join the BASC because of the insurance it gives us, or most anyway, but the BASC bend over backwards to promote our rights to shoot and hunt, with a remit. The remit is that we do it with professionalism and skill, with the required knowledge and training, and to allay any fears to the general public that our motives are genuine, ethical and sincere. In order to gain respect for our sport, we have to be seen in a good responsible light, so as not to give the antis any fuel for their argument, and whilst some will kill foxes at this time of the year, some will not because they have a respect that encompasses the perpetuation of the species, especially in the breeding season, the latter being the ethos of a true sportsman IMHO. Even though we see the fox as the predator it is, it has rights to breed and exist, afterall if it were extinct the challenge for us to hunt and cull it properly would not be there, leaving a large hole. IMHO to kill for the sake of killing cheapens our sport, much better to be a "sportsman". That said, I would say what all of us don't need is the type of posts which paint a poor picture of our activities, whether we feel justified by our actions or not. The moral is think before posting methinks, the antis love to judge us down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts