william Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 Hi guys I had a top day on the barley yesterday however my o/u browning sporter seemed to be playing up now and again. When I pressed the trigger sometimes it would not shoot mostly it would but now again it wouldn't ?? Do you think its the firing pins on the way out?? if so how much would it be to replace them ? can you do it yourself or is it a gun smith job?? I would appreciate your comments Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 take the safty off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william Posted July 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 Is that like a ( safety) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 Have a look at the pins see if they are pitted? as for doing it your self depends how good you are with that sort of stuff and how brave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney86 Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 Do the pins hit the primer when it doesnt fire (ie, do you still get a 'click')? Don't forget it could also be the carts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 (edited) When did you last fully clean it ie. take out the trigger and firing mech etc. and give it a good going over, it's surprising the amount of gunge then gets in and then hardens if not removed. Edited July 1, 2011 by phaedra1106 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william Posted July 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 When I press the trigger there is no click just the sound of the trigger against the back of the trigger guard, the pins don't seem pitted, I do keep the gun clean but in all honesty I haven't took out the trigger mech for a while so I will do that and try again !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 Please dont think I'm being scarcastic (as Im not) but I had a similar problem with my Miroku MK 38 a few months ago. All it turned out to be was the small allen screw that holds the adjustable trigger in place had come lose and the trigger blade had slid all the way back - hence when pulled it would hit the trgger guard and not release the firing pins. Might be worth checking this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 Are you sure you are fully releasing the trigger before the second shot? Sounds stupid but I sometimes do it on "Sim pairs" at clay only to find when I try and shoot off the round after missing the clay just to check it fires lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul T Posted July 1, 2011 Report Share Posted July 1, 2011 When I press the trigger there is no click just the sound of the trigger against the back of the trigger guard, the pins don't seem pitted, I do keep the gun clean but in all honesty I haven't took out the trigger mech for a while so I will do that and try again !! Yeah, but are there any signs of the pin striking the primer on the cart? I have had a problem with intermittant light striking before now, which was easily cured with new springs. Not heard of pitted pins - they either bend :blink: or break for me . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william Posted July 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 I will also check the allen screw is tight on the trigger , there is no striking on the primer of the shell I will check all and see what happens thanks for your thoughts on this guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodyPopper Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Are you sure you are fully releasing the trigger before the second shot? Sounds stupid but I sometimes do it on "Sim pairs" at clay only to find when I try and shoot off the round after missing the clay just to check it fires lol. Yup, that's one of my favourites too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william Posted July 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Yes I do release the trigger but still not firing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 Yes I do release the trigger but still not firing? So im guessing this is on the second shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william Posted July 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2011 Just checked the firing pins its always the bottom barrel that plays up and the pin looks slightly distorted it also does not pop out as much as the top barrel so I am thinking new pins ?? how much roughly to replace any ideas ?? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul T Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Just checked the firing pins its always the bottom barrel that plays up and the pin looks slightly distorted it also does not pop out as much as the top barrel so I am thinking new pins ?? how much roughly to replace any ideas ?? Thanks. On the top barrel when you say 'pop out' does it drop forward beyond the face when you tip the gun? If so, then it's broken. If it's you pushing the pin forward then that's fine. If the bottom one is 'distorted' or bent then it needs replacing. I had both pins MADE for my s/s and a load of other work done (springs, screws etc) so I can only divvy the cost up and guess about £15 each. PW member PhilM suggested this site (clicky here) in a previous thread which may be of use to you at £6 per pin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william Posted July 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Thanks for the reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney86 Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Before you replace the pins - you say it doesn't click... that means the hammer isn't hitting the other end of the pin to start with. Even if the pin is faulty, your description would point to an issue elsewhere. My guess (without feeling the problem myself) would be that it isn't cocking the hammer correctly, or the inertia block is sticking. Take it to a gunsmith, this is a fairly standard problem and shouldn't cost much to put right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney86 Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Also, what cartridges are you using? Low recoil/21g by any chance? I've just fixed a gun that wouldn't reset to the second shot because there wasn't enough recoil - it worked with 28gm but not 21! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted July 4, 2011 Report Share Posted July 4, 2011 Had a similar problem with my Browning, check the pin on the bottom of the fore end, this is what cocks the springs when you break the gun. Mine was loose and so when I broke my gun, every now and again it did not push the rods back it rode over them. I probably haven't made much sense but feel free to pm me your number and I'll give you a call to explain. If it's the same problem it takes ten seconds to put right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william Posted July 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Thanks for your help guys pm sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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