Mungler Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 Boomerangtastic, with a side of patronising sauce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 A 20 yard out straight crossing rabbit needs a minimum of 3 foot lead shoot at its feet and keep the gun moving with your body. if you shoot skeet think of stand four the lead is the same. Rabbits are my favourite targets and I dont miss many. What a load of Northern tosh, I can't think of many rabbits that need ANY lead at 20 yards Cat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 You chaps do have to remember that Peter uses ultra-slow shells so probably DOES need to give at least 3 foot lead. Afterall, remember that conclusive photograph that he managed to take of his shot string? It definitely wasn't a wad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthitathing Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 Erm the lady in question recently shot in the world championships (so probably does know a little about shooting rabbits). And came away with a Medal Probably out over-leading rabbits somewhere :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthitathing Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 I chanced on this video a couple of years ago and It seems to work for me , apart from when I miss but that's just lack of talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 I chanced on this video a couple of years ago and It seems to work for me , apart from when I miss but that's just lack of talent Yes, shoot the "front legs" But remember they have 3 foot front legs in West Yorkshire :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 3 foot lead... What air rifle were you shooting peter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustem Dave Posted July 9, 2011 Report Share Posted July 9, 2011 A 20 yard out straight crossing rabbit needs a minimum of 3 foot lead shoot at its feet and keep the gun moving with your body. if you shoot skeet think of stand four the lead is the same. Rabbits are my favourite targets and I dont miss many. If you give a 20 yard rabbit 3 feet you,ll probabley be two and a half feet in front of it,if your seeing 3 feet you,ve either got a very slow swing (usually if your aged 90 plus) :D or your stopping the gun. Always start the gun slightly below it,s line then if it bounces you can go up with it, and shoot it,s front feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Potter Posted July 9, 2011 Report Share Posted July 9, 2011 If you give a 20 yard rabbit 3 feet you,ll probabley be two and a half feet in front of it,if your seeing 3 feet you,ve either got a very slow swing (usually if your aged 90 plus) :D or your stopping the gun. Always start the gun slightly below it,s line then if it bounces you can go up with it, and shoot it,s front feet. :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: What I see when I'm shooting rabbits (clays) is nothing, zilch, nil, zero. For a very, very slow (hand rolled) rabbit I have to ambush them, hold the gun absolutely still, not even a millimetre of movement and when the clay is all but in line, pull the trigger. If I, even with a stopped gun, shot 3' in front I would, like Dustem Dave, miss by very nearly 3' in front. If the majority of posters on this thread regularly hit crossing rabbits it goes to prove that every persons perception of lead is different, one persons "farmyard gate" is another ones "a couple of inches at the muzzle". I know from a regular shooting partner of mine that he "sees" roughly half the lead I do, if I see 8' on a bird he sees 4. Which one of us is correct? well if we kill the bird we both are. As with DD, I'm convinced(but I may not be right) that it's all to do with the speed of the gun swing, slow swing equals more perceived lead, very fast swing, virtually no seen lead. One thing should be apparent is that, however good a coach you either are or think you are, you can't give advice, in feet and inches or even those new fangled metres & millimetres, on lead over the internet, it is probably about marginally less useful than having driving lessons from Stevie Wonder. Yours in controversy Mr Potter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted July 9, 2011 Report Share Posted July 9, 2011 Brilliant answer- spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustem Dave Posted July 9, 2011 Report Share Posted July 9, 2011 :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: What I see when I'm shooting rabbits (clays) is nothing, zilch, nil, zero. For a very, very slow (hand rolled) rabbit I have to ambush them, hold the gun absolutely still, not even a millimetre of movement and when the clay is all but in line, pull the trigger. If I, even with a stopped gun, shot 3' in front I would, like Dustem Dave, miss by very nearly 3' in front. If the majority of posters on this thread regularly hit crossing rabbits it goes to prove that every persons perception of lead is different, one persons "farmyard gate" is another ones "a couple of inches at the muzzle". I know from a regular shooting partner of mine that he "sees" roughly half the lead I do, if I see 8' on a bird he sees 4. Which one of us is correct? well if we kill the bird we both are. As with DD, I'm convinced(but I may not be right) that it's all to do with the speed of the gun swing, slow swing equals more perceived lead, very fast swing, virtually no seen lead. One thing should be apparent is that, however good a coach you either are or think you are, you can't give advice, in feet and inches or even those new fangled metres & millimetres, on lead over the internet, it is probably about marginally less useful than having driving lessons from Stevie Wonder. Yours in controversy Mr Potter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustem Dave Posted July 9, 2011 Report Share Posted July 9, 2011 Yes you,ve hit the nail on the head there mr potter people see lead differently,i try not to listen to anybody else when out shooting as it's cost me no end of targets in the past,i'm lucky the one lad i shoot with see's what i see! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted July 9, 2011 Report Share Posted July 9, 2011 What made me laugh was Peter calling auntie a lady....... :lol: :lol: ( only joking we all know she is) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 I normally give rabbits about 1oz of lead Ooops sorry did you say lead or Lead??? Remember 'Smoker's' words ringing in my ears 'Do you want to SHOOT clays or stand and watch them? SHOOT them for ***** sake' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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