TaxiDriver Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 (edited) Went out tonight to the one local permission I have, Using my CZ455 22lr with SAK Moderator was firing off a five shot group using winnie subs that were falling short/low of where I thought they should be, Swapped to CCI Stingers to see if the zero/distance was right(nearer) for those. Have to say they do go with quite a 'crack' even with the SAK Moderator :o after the second round, a voice shouts at me from behind, anyways the chap was a bit narked and told(asked) me not to fire guns round there, stated he had children in there (his property) and they do run around in there playing and accidents do happen !!! I apologised for the crack of the last two rounds and said I wouldn't use those anymore as I hadn't appreciated how loud they are, but he wasn't having any of it and asked(told) me to move further down the land I was on. AND made great emphasis of the point that he'd 'asked me nicely' I was shooting on land I have permission to be on, firing away from his property and it was only about 8.15pm, But in order not to inflame the situation further I moved away from the spot I was on, but after half an hour I was almost spitting nails and wasn't in the mood for a quite evening at the bunnies any more, So I came home I'm thinking, tomorrow I'll go and see the guy who got me permission (my cousin as he's the agricultural egineer) and explain what went on, and just maybe ring my firearms dept and have an informal chat for some advice, As far as I can see I was acting lawfully, and responsibly and the only way what the guy said he was concerned could happen, would happen, would be IF the kids broke through the hedge on his land, crawled down into the stream, up the ditch and broke through the hedge on my permission. He did mention, having another yard, (which isn't far away) where there are loads of rabbits/pigeons, So I might go and see him tomorrow, see if he'll have a chat and see if I can't allay his fears, and maybe pick up a new permission to boot Edited July 19, 2011 by TaxiDriver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 (edited) An age old problem which I used to encounter from time to time. Sadly when there is property nearby with children you are always going to upset someone with safety and noise issues even though as you say, you have rightful permission. I would be tempted to cease shooting in that particular area or use a moderated firearm if you have one available. In my experience continuing to shoot in a neighbourhood which might cause a resident some annoyance is not worth the undoubted trouble which will soon follow, Whether you are in the right or not. Edit...sorry didnt read that your weapon was already moderated Edited July 19, 2011 by Fisherman Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Why make life difficult with your neighbour. You did the reasonable thing and moved further away, which didn't affect what you wanted to do and he went away pleased, even mentioned some shooting he might have for you. Sounds to me that it all ended very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the enigma Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 (edited) I have the same problem on a couple of fields that I own. I know that I'm legal entitled to shoot there,but where there are kids near by,it just not worth the hassle,so I just don't bother. But it is very frustrating. Edited July 20, 2011 by the enigma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanl50 Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 I have similar issues 2 pieces of land adjacent to the village I live in, any shots reverberate through the village, I have never had any complaints, but my mother-in-law who lives with us told me when she's in our garden the shots sound loud/close so I purchased a 12g Hushpower, no problems now. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper3 Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 would a air rifle not be a better option when shooting near the houses, this may end up with a good relationship with the neighbours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted July 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Cranfield : I agree, and Im not trying to make an enemy of the neighbours and to appease the chap at the time I moved further away, however with regard to it not affecting what I wanted to do ? The point of zeroing in there, and checking the range from a safe vantage/sniping point, (where I'd be shooting away from any neighbouring properties and towards a safe backstop) is THAT IS where the damn rabbits have/are eating a great swathe into the wheat fields. Jasper : I do have FAC Air and that's one thing I had thought I might suggest to the chap as a compromise IF I go and see him and he'll have a chat with me about his concerns. I've been going to this permission since about February with a sub 12ft/lbs air rifle before getting my SGC and FAC in May, In that time I've not heard any sound of kids in late pm/early evenings. The guy does keep greyhounds, which, according to my landowner he has a habit of bringing over onto the land where I was and 'toileting' along 50-100yrds of the track where I was. Another guy at the property has also previously asked me to shoot him a rabbit or two without killing them :o When I asked "Why" he replied along the lines of "can use them to get the dogs fired up" Naturally I declined I've also caught this other chap setting a live catch trap and found a couple of snares which nobody has permission to be leaving according to my cousin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 i think "kiss my hoop" would be a good reply. :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linny Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 if it was me i would have a word with the land owner tell him you where polite with the neighbour and see what they say as you don't want to stir things up and spoil it for your self you did the right thing . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 The guy clearly knows more about rimfires than you-he spotted the Stingers and is aware that everything within a mile radius has an even chance of being hit-offer to let him stand directly in front of the gun-he should be safe there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Well from what you're saying at least he's not a thoroughbred anti. He's just concerned for the safety of his kids which is fair if he doesn't know that much about guns. I'd go and have a chat with him. He sounds like the sort who once informed could be very reasonable with you. One of my farms has a couple of houses right on the boundary. Both owners were nervous of me until I spent some time talking but now they're happy for me to cut through their gardens if it helps with not winding the bunnies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted July 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 (edited) Been to see the landowner of my permission this AM. The neighbouring property owner has been to see my landowner this AM, Turns out the guy who spoke to me last night isn't even the owner of the neighbouring property, nor does he reside there, he stables a few greyhounds there apparently. My landowner confirmed my legal presence on HIS land and what I'm there for ie 'Pest Control' at his request. In order to keep the peace I've agreed with my landowner to use the rimfire further down the track away from the neighbouring property, and the air rifle where I was yesterday evening. My landowner has however reminded the neighbour that if he wants to shout the odds to much then he'll no longer be welcome/allowed to exercise the dogs along the farm tracks (this should mean a whole lot less excrement everywhere) Now I'll give it a few days to calm down/blow over then see if I can speak to the other chap about his yard that he mentioned last night Edited July 20, 2011 by TaxiDriver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted July 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 (edited) The guy clearly knows more about rimfires than you-he spotted the Stingers and is aware that everything within a mile radius has an even chance of being hit-offer to let him stand directly in front of the gun-he should be safe there. I'm not sure it you're having a pop or tongue in cheek (it matters not) I spotted the stingers, I loaded them to try in direct comparison to the Winnie subs, having not used them before though I didn't appreciate that they'd 'crack' similar to a .17hmr As for being safe in front of the gun ? I should think his best bet is to hide behind a couple of rabbits Edited July 20, 2011 by TaxiDriver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linny Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 hopefully a good result Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Anything with a muzzle velocity over 1600 fps is going to "crack" a bit! They would be a great round if they flew straight-if you want high velocity rounds that land in the same field try RWS high velocity hollow point-but they are like rocking horse poop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted July 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Anything with a muzzle velocity over 1600 fps is going to "crack" a bit! They would be a great round if they flew straight-if you want high velocity rounds that land in the same field try RWS high velocity hollow point-but they are like rocking horse poop. Personally I'll be sticking to subs, can't be doing with the crack of a normal/higher velocity round, shame of it is I now have 45 of the damn things left that'll sit in the safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.