vole Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 Any tips on baits or tactics for the Summer species around North Wales ? Cheers for any info . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 umm never fished in North Wales but unless its from a mark off rocks float fishing from a beach is going to be a bit tricky (what has made you pick a float set up) with tide and wind acting it will be hard to keep any control, can you give any more details plz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted August 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 I was just thinking about a back up plan if the spinners did not catch really . I remember the beach is fairly steep with some gulleys. I would have a baited set up out as well . Always enjoyed watching a float and was going to use pike floats I will have from my Ireland trip .Had ideas of them drifting out as the tide dropped . Never done it before but always open to new ideas . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pole Star Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 (edited) I was just thinking about a back up plan if the spinners did not catch really . I remember the beach is fairly steep with some gulleys. I would have a baited set up out as well . Always enjoyed watching a float and was going to use pike floats I will have from my Ireland trip .Had ideas of them drifting out as the tide dropped . Never done it before but always open to new ideas . If you choose high tide of course & if there is any weed patches near by you could try an earth worm from your float set up if you know if there are any sea trout in that area especially if there is a stream/burn flowing in . September is a good time in my area or you could try spinning for them if the water is deep enough & you may well pick up a mackerel or two or a sea trout . My nephew was fishing worm on a float rig off a Co Wexford beach 2 weeks ago & connected with a good fish but it lept clean out the water 2or3 times & flipped off much to his annoyance . Good luck & Good fishing . Pole Star Edited August 8, 2011 by Pole Star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 How will you see a float in rough seas at 75+ yards ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 floats easy to see. where are you going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30-6 Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 I've had mullet and bass doing this on small harbour ragworm or strip of razor, set depth various until you start catching. You can over set the depth so the hook is on the bottom and pick up a flattie, you don't have to be in deep water. Another good method, especially when over rough ground for bass and pollack is like this. Fill a yellow jiffy lemon with wax or water with strong monofilament going through it with a loop at either end , this weighs about 2 ozs, ok to cast but will float. Top end goes to the main line other end fix a trace about 3 or 4 foot long, to this fix a eel lure with a swan shot just above the eel, ( not a spinner or it will sink and get stuck ), little 2 inch yellow one i always found good. If over rough ground and shallow start winding as soon as it hits the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 and use braid, much thiner than mono and cuts the water nice with no stretch important with a salty float set up.......... I have some home made pike floats, self cockers that are arounf 1ft long I make them as the Norfolk Broads can get a fair lump on in the winter and I have never been able to but anything to do the job, I dont use any down the line weights unless there is a very strong tide which can cause the hookbait to lift so try to get a balance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 I've had mullet and bass doing this on small harbour ragworm or strip of razor, set depth various until you start catching. You can over set the depth so the hook is on the bottom and pick up a flattie, you don't have to be in deep water. Another good method, especially when over rough ground for bass and pollack is like this. Fill a yellow jiffy lemon with wax or water with strong monofilament going through it with a loop at either end , this weighs about 2 ozs, ok to cast but will float. Top end goes to the main line other end fix a trace about 3 or 4 foot long, to this fix a eel lure with a swan shot just above the eel, ( not a spinner or it will sink and get stuck ), little 2 inch yellow one i always found good. If over rough ground and shallow start winding as soon as it hits the water. Works well. Very popular method on the Dutch coast owing to the presence of massive stone cubes below the waterline to break up the rough seas. Mainly for garfish and bass. Haven't seen them in the UK, but the Dutch tackle shops sell casting weighted floats in various sizes. Obviously, an onshore houlie with sea to match is a no no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 Float fishing is good just behind the breakers. You need to wade to be able to control the line though. There is no more natural presentation for bass with a bit of ragworm or peeler. The French use bubble floats and a string of mackerel feathers from the beach with good results. Those who advocate trying for sea trout ought to be aware that you need a licence and it ain't cheap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pole Star Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 Float fishing is good just behind the breakers. You need to wade to be able to control the line though. There is no more natural presentation for bass with a bit of ragworm or peeler. The French use bubble floats and a string of mackerel feathers from the beach with good results. Those who advocate trying for sea trout ought to be aware that you need a licence and it ain't cheap! Yes UKpoacher I think your are right about that & in Ireland they did have a tagging system but I think that may have changed since I lived there, but up here in Orkney & Shetland they have a whole set of laws on trout & sea trout wich are different to the mainland UK . Incedently how much is the license down your way , would be interested to know ? . Regards Pole Star . ps there are some good tips on these pages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 Float fishing is good just behind the breakers. You need to wade to be able to control the line though. There is no more natural presentation for bass with a bit of ragworm or peeler. The French use bubble floats and a string of mackerel feathers from the beach with good results. I'm all about the bubble floats in the surf. Never get lunkers but any bend in the rod with a different technique is always a good thing. I use them to present sandeel, wade out as far as poss, cast across the tide and when they swing round in line with the beach retrieve them very slowly. A decent eel lashed on well can last ages. Great fun on a 2lb TC carp rod and 5000 set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 I'm all about the bubble floats in the surf. Never get lunkers but any bend in the rod with a different technique is always a good thing. I use them to present sandeel, wade out as far as poss, cast across the tide and when they swing round in line with the beach retrieve them very slowly. A decent eel lashed on well can last ages. Great fun on a 2lb TC carp rod and 5000 set up. That's my sort of fishing mate They can keep their obese tame carp in one-acre puddles. Give me a two pound mullet or bass from the sea anytime. Salmon and Sea Trout Licence prices can befound Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pole Star Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 That's my sort of fishing mate They can keep their obese tame carp in one-acre puddles. Give me a two pound mullet or bass from the sea anytime. Salmon and Sea Trout Licence prices can befound Here Thanks for info , psssss't dont tell any one ! up here no one pays a thing ! its old Udel law , trout fishing's all free & its brill ! . Pole Star . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushpower Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 self cocking float a couple of shot down the line fishing 6-12ft as a guide with frozen or if available live eel,just right for the large spanish mackeral,bass etc you catch on the llyen pennisular and round north wales,i my self will be having a dabble from the 22nd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted August 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Thanks lads for all tips . Spanish mackerel of these shores now ? Steel trace needed I guess . Week or so on the Shannon then N Wales on way back . Terrible , simply terrible . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30-6 Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 If you can get to BARMOUTH fish the estuary on low water with a popper lure. Seen a guy catch 17 bass, he was averaging 1 fish to 3 casts. He did say that it was his best day ever on them, but he always caught something. Bought 3 off him for a fiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted August 11, 2011 Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 If you can get to BARMOUTH fish the estuary on low water with a popper lure. Seen a guy catch 17 bass, he was averaging 1 fish to 3 casts. He did say that it was his best day ever on them, but he always caught something. Bought 3 off him for a fiver. Thats some beach. Its got Bass written all over it. Fished it once on high water up by the dunes, plenty of knocks but couldn't turn them into fish. Had a cracking lass from college with me so that may have had something to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted August 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2011 Sadly have to stay close to base . Damn family . Got poppers a plenty , oh you mean the LURES do you ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30-6 Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Ack-Ack that's a fair trade off, no fish for a pretty girl, you can always catch a bass again. But did you catch any crabs ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted August 15, 2011 Report Share Posted August 15, 2011 Ack-Ack that's a fair trade off, no fish for a pretty girl, you can always catch a bass again. But did you catch any crabs ? Not on that particular occassion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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